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That could become quite huge (And=20 > probably most would be discarded later anyway of you want all=20 > permutations of elements and attributes) Just elements would work for me. Best, M On February 26, 2016 1:00:03 AM PST, Hans Hagen wrote: >On 2/26/2016 8:52 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> On 02/25/2016 10:48 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> [...] >>> i'm still puzzled what you want >> >> Hans, >> >> I=E2=80=99m only guessing (after testing the XML analyzing ability tha= t you >> discovered us with a single XML file). >> >> The analysis is important, but after that I have to write the actual >> environment. >> >> I think that the basic structure that I sent in >> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/084582.html is >useful >> to avoid writing myself the environment. > >You want to autogenerate that? That could become quite huge (And=20 >probably most would be discarded later anyway of you want all=20 >permutations of elements and attributes) > >> I mean, of course I have to add the relevant commands to handle in >> ConTeXt each element. But with the basic scheme, I know which >elements >> (in the broadest sense) I have to setup. >> >> I want to avoid writing the whole element list in the environment by >> hand. But I may be doing wrong (this is totally new to me). >> >> Or do you write (type) each environment from scratch after using the >> report generated by ConTeXt? > >We just start with the trivial things and then look at the specific=20 >structures. We get either relative simple html like xml or we get quite > >complex educational markup, with quite demanding rendering and multiple > >products. The good news is that the number of elements is always >limited=20 >(analyzing would not really work well because it can be that thousands=20 >of files need to be loaded and merged which itself is not a problem, >but=20 >one then always need to interpret what needs to get loaded). > >Hans > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl >----------------------------------------------------------------- >________________________________________________________________________= ___________ >If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >to the Wiki! > >maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >wiki : http://contextgarden.net >________________________________________________________________________= ___________ ------MF2F9NP1BA5XPF2M7S3N4AP62MVQ8D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > You want to autogenerate that? That could b= ecome quite huge (And
> probably most would be discarded later anyway of you want all
> permutations of elements and attributes)

Just elements would work for me.

Best,
M

On February 26, 2016 1:00:03 AM PST, = Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
On 2/26/2016 8:52 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
<=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; bord=
er-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> On 02/25/2016 10:48 AM, =
Hans Hagen wrote:
 =
[...]
 i'm still puzzled what you want

 Hans=
,

 I=E2=80=99m only guessing (after testing the XML analyzing =
ability that you
 discovered us with a single XML file).

=
 The analysis is important, but after that I have to write the actual
 environment.

 I think that the basic structure that I sent =
in
 https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/084582.html is useful
 to avoid writing myself the environment.

You want to autogenerate that? That could become quite
huge (And 
probably most would be discarded later anyway of you want=
 all 
permutations of elements and attributes)

 I mean, of course I have to add t=
he relevant commands to handle in
 ConTeXt each element. But with th=
e basic scheme, I know which elements
 (in the broadest sense) I hav=
e to setup.

 I want to avoid writing the whole element list in=
 the environment by
 hand. But I may be doing wrong (this is totally=
 new to me).

 Or do you write (type) each environment from scr=
atch after using the
 report generated by ConTeXt?

We just start with the trivial things and then look at the specifi=
c 
structures. We get either relative simple html like xml or we get=
 quite 
complex educational markup, with quite demanding rendering a=
nd multiple 
products. The good news is that
the number of elements is always limited 
(analyzing would not reall=
y work well because it can be that thousands 
of files need to be lo=
aded and merged which itself is not a problem, but 
one then always =
need to interpret what needs to get loaded).

Hans

<=
hr />
                                           Hans Hagen | PRAGMA=
 ADE
               Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherla=
nds
       tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragm=
a-pod.nl


If your question is of interest=
 to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist =
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webpage =
 : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : =
http://foundry.=
supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
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