additional space with sidebar and narrower

additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Ahoi,
I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
Any hints?

\starttext

\input tufte

\startsidebar
\startnarrower
\input knuth
\stopnarrower
\stopsidebar

\input tufte

\stoptext


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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

If the issue is the size of the sidebar, I think if you add something like

	\setupsidebar[topoffset=-5mm,bottomoffset=-5mm]

you can get rid of the spurious length of the sidebar. Indeed here 5mm should be replaced with what looks better with your setting of interlinespace.

Best regards: OK

> On 26 Mar 2019, at 11:16, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
> Ahoi,
> I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
> Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
> Any hints?
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \startsidebar
> \startnarrower
> \input knuth
> \stopnarrower
> \stopsidebar
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).

But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.

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Am 2019-03-26 um 15:22 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> If the issue is the size of the sidebar, I think if you add something like
> 
> 	\setupsidebar[topoffset=-5mm,bottomoffset=-5mm]
> 
> you can get rid of the spurious length of the sidebar. Indeed here 5mm should be replaced with what looks better with your setting of interlinespace.
> 
> Best regards: OK
> 
>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 11:16, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Ahoi,
>> I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
>> Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
>> Any hints?
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \input tufte
>> 
>> \startsidebar
>> \startnarrower
>> \input knuth
>> \stopnarrower
>> \stopsidebar
>> 
>> \input tufte
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 

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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>
> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.

The reason for the extra lien is that \startsidebar begins a new 
paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a 
single empty line.

Wolfgang

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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:

> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>> 
>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
> 
> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.

Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.

Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:

> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
> 
>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>> 
>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>> 
>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
> 
> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.

I finally found out what’s the problem:

\starttext

\input tufte

\startnarrower
\startsidebar
\startparagraph
\input knuth
\stopparagraph
\stopsidebar
\stopnarrower

\input tufte

\stoptext

As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?


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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/7/2019 8:44 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> 
>> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>>>
>>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>>>
>>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
>>
>> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
> 
> I finally found out what’s the problem:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \startnarrower
> \startsidebar
> \startparagraph
> \input knuth
> \stopparagraph
> \stopsidebar
> \stopnarrower
> 
> \input tufte
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?
swap 'm

\startnarrower
\startparagraph
\startsidebar
\input knuth
\stopsidebar
\stopparagraph
\stopnarrower

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Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2019-04-07 um 21:32 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:

> On 4/7/2019 8:44 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>>>> 
>>>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>>>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>>>> 
>>>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
>>> 
>>> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
>> I finally found out what’s the problem:
>> \starttext
>> \input tufte
>> \startnarrower
>> \startsidebar
>> \startparagraph
>> \input knuth
>> \stopparagraph
>> \stopsidebar
>> \stopnarrower
>> \input tufte
>> \stoptext
>> As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?
> swap 'm
> 
> \startnarrower
> \startparagraph
> \startsidebar
> \input knuth
> \stopsidebar
> \stopparagraph
> \stopnarrower

Thank you, but I need the sidebar over several paragraphs. (And I wrapped narrower and sidebar in its own startstop.)


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