Problem with hanging punctuation - a bug?

Problem with hanging punctuation - a bug?

[Tomas Bures]

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Dear all,

I've noticed some strange behavior of hanging punctuation (protrusion). 
The hyphens in hyphenated words are sometimes protruded and sometimes not.

I wasn't able to find out the rule, but I managed to reduce the problem 
to having just one paragraph that repeats several times in the document. 
You may notice that the last two paragraphs do not have the hyphens 
protruded.

In my original document, I'm using Minion Pro, however, I was able to 
reproduce this strange behavior with Pagella as well.

I'm attaching PDF showing this behavior. The contex source file is below.

Please, does anyone know how to fix this strange behavior? I would like 
to keep the protrusion as it makes the whole document better aligned.

Thank you very much. Best regards,
Tomas



\mainlanguage[cs]

\definefontfeature[ssp-default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]

\starttypescript[serif][pagella]
   \definefontsynonym[Pagella-Regular]    [file:texgyrepagella-regular]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript[serif][pagella]
   \definefontsynonym[Serif]           [Pagella-Regular] 
[features=ssp-default]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface[ssp][rm][serif][pagella][default]


\setupbodyfont[ssp,12pt]

\setupalign[hanging,hz]

\setuppapersize[A5][A5]

\setuplayout[grid=yes]

\setupindenting[small,yes]

\showgrid

\starttext

Sankránti je jeden z~nejdůležitějších svátků. Pro lidstvo je svátkem 
prakticky každý den. Lidé si však ve své nevědomosti vyhradili jako 
svátky jen několik dnů a~ostatní jsou dny obyčejné. Mnozí slaví tento 
den, aniž by opravdu znali jeho význam. V~této části světa dnes lidé 
uctívají krávy a~býky. Býci jsou vybraně zkrášleni množstvím ozdob 
a~látek a~voděni po ulicích. Nazývají je gangiréddulu (posvátní býci). 
A~nejen to, býky a~krávy symbolicky oddávají. Osoba, která ozdobeného 
býka vede se nazývá gangiréddudásu.

Sankránti je jeden z~nejdůležitějších svátků. Pro lidstvo je svátkem 
prakticky každý den. Lidé si však ve své nevědomosti vyhradili jako 
svátky jen několik dnů a~ostatní jsou dny obyčejné. Mnozí slaví tento 
den, aniž by opravdu znali jeho význam. V~této části světa dnes lidé 
uctívají krávy a~býky. Býci jsou vybraně zkrášleni množstvím ozdob 
a~látek a~voděni po ulicích. Nazývají je gangiréddulu (posvátní býci). 
A~nejen to, býky a~krávy symbolicky oddávají. Osoba, která ozdobeného 
býka vede se nazývá gangiréddudásu.

Sankránti je jeden z~nejdůležitějších svátků. Pro lidstvo je svátkem 
prakticky každý den. Lidé si však ve své nevědomosti vyhradili jako 
svátky jen několik dnů a~ostatní jsou dny obyčejné. Mnozí slaví tento 
den, aniž by opravdu znali jeho význam. V~této části světa dnes lidé 
uctívají krávy a~býky. Býci jsou vybraně zkrášleni množstvím ozdob 
a~látek a~voděni po ulicích. Nazývají je gangiréddulu (posvátní býci). 
A~nejen to, býky a~krávy symbolicky oddávají. Osoba, která ozdobeného 
býka vede se nazývá gangiréddudásu.

Sankránti je jeden z~nejdůležitějších svátků. Pro lidstvo je svátkem 
prakticky každý den. Lidé si však ve své nevědomosti vyhradili jako 
svátky jen několik dnů a~ostatní jsou dny obyčejné. Mnozí slaví tento 
den, aniž by opravdu znali jeho význam. V~této části světa dnes lidé 
uctívají krávy a~býky. Býci jsou vybraně zkrášleni množstvím ozdob 
a~látek a~voděni po ulicích. Nazývají je gangiréddulu (posvátní býci). 
A~nejen to, býky a~krávy symbolicky oddávají. Osoba, která ozdobeného 
býka vede se nazývá gangiréddudásu.

Sankránti je jeden z~nejdůležitějších svátků. Pro lidstvo je svátkem 
prakticky každý den. Lidé si však ve své nevědomosti vyhradili jako 
svátky jen několik dnů a~ostatní jsou dny obyčejné. Mnozí slaví tento 
den, aniž by opravdu znali jeho význam. V~této části světa dnes lidé 
uctívají krávy a~býky. Býci jsou vybraně zkrášleni množstvím ozdob 
a~látek a~voděni po ulicích. Nazývají je gangiréddulu (posvátní býci). 
A~nejen to, býky a~krávy symbolicky oddávají. Osoba, která ozdobeného 
býka vede se nazývá gangiréddudásu.

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Re: Problem with hanging punctuation - a bug?

[Hans Hagen]

Tomas Bures wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I've noticed some strange behavior of hanging punctuation (protrusion). 
> The hyphens in hyphenated words are sometimes protruded and sometimes not.
> 
> I wasn't able to find out the rule, but I managed to reduce the problem 
> to having just one paragraph that repeats several times in the document. 
> You may notice that the last two paragraphs do not have the hyphens 
> protruded.
> 
> In my original document, I'm using Minion Pro, however, I was able to 
> reproduce this strange behavior with Pagella as well.
> 
> I'm attaching PDF showing this behavior. The contex source file is below.
> 
> Please, does anyone know how to fix this strange behavior? I would like 
> to keep the protrusion as it makes the whole document better aligned.

we found out that there is a buglet in luatex itself so you have to wait 
till the next luatex release; a temporary fix is:

\let\textdir\gobblethreearguments

but make sure that you remove such a hack after an update

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Re: Problem with hanging punctuation - a bug?

[Taco Hoekwater]

Tomas Bures wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I've noticed some strange behavior of hanging punctuation (protrusion).
> The hyphens in hyphenated words are sometimes protruded and sometimes not.

It is a bug in luatex that will be fixed in the next beta. For the
moment (assuming you do not need multi-directional output) the
workaround is to add

  \def\textdir#1#2#3{}

to your document preamble.

Best wishes,
Taco


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Re: Problem with hanging punctuation - a bug?

[Tomas Bures]

Wonderful! It works now. Thank you very much Hans and Taco.

Tomas

On 11/30/2009 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> Tomas Bures wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I've noticed some strange behavior of hanging punctuation (protrusion).
>> The hyphens in hyphenated words are sometimes protruded and sometimes not.
>
> It is a bug in luatex that will be fixed in the next beta. For the
> moment (assuming you do not need multi-directional output) the
> workaround is to add
>
>    \def\textdir#1#2#3{}
>
> to your document preamble.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
>
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Superscript-fontfeature for footnotenumbers

[Andreas Harder]

Hi all,

I'm trying to set the superscript-fontfeature for footnote-numbers, but there isn't a '(text)numberstyle'-command, so what's the way to achieve this?

So far I've this:

\starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif] [LinLibertine-Regular] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
  \definefontsynonym [LinLibertine-Regular] [name:linuxlibertineo] [features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [linlibertine]
  \definetypeface [linlibertine] [rm] [serif] [linlibertine] [default]
\stoptypescript

\definefontfeature[sups][sups=yes]

\usetypescript[linlibertine]
\setupbodyfont[linlibertine]

% \defineconversion[sups][\red\setff{sups}\arabicnumerals]
\definestructureconversionset[sups][][Romannumerals]

\setupnote
  [footnote]
  [command=\myfootnotecommand,
  % numberconversionset=sups,
  % textnumberstyle=\setff{sups}, % would be nice
  ]

\def\myfootnotecommand#1{\hbox to .5em{\setff{sups}#1}}


\starttext 
\dorecurse{12}{This\footnote{Hello World #1} is a test. }
\stoptext


Thanks in advance

	Andreas
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Re: Superscript-fontfeature for footnotenumbers

[Hans Hagen]

Andreas Harder wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to set the superscript-fontfeature for footnote-numbers, but there isn't a '(text)numberstyle'-command, so what's the way to achieve this?
> 
> So far I've this:
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
>   \definefontsynonym [Serif] [LinLibertine-Regular] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
>   \definefontsynonym [LinLibertine-Regular] [name:linuxlibertineo] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [linlibertine]
>   \definetypeface [linlibertine] [rm] [serif] [linlibertine] [default]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \definefontfeature[sups][sups=yes]
> 
> \usetypescript[linlibertine]
> \setupbodyfont[linlibertine]
> 
> % \defineconversion[sups][\red\setff{sups}\arabicnumerals]
> \definestructureconversionset[sups][][Romannumerals]
> 
> \setupnote
>   [footnote]
>   [command=\myfootnotecommand,
>   % numberconversionset=sups,
>   % textnumberstyle=\setff{sups}, % would be nice
>   ]
> 
> \def\myfootnotecommand#1{\hbox to .5em{\setff{sups}#1}}
> 
> 
> \starttext 
> \dorecurse{12}{This\footnote{Hello World #1} is a test. }
> \stoptext

I need to look into the numberstyle comand as well as some duplicate 
command being applied but here is a test

\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [command=Z,
    style=X,
    textstyle=Q,
    numbercommand=N\setff{sups},
    textcommand=T\setff{sups},
    numberstyle=S\setff{sups},
   %style=\setff{sups}, % interesting effect
   ]

for the moment stick to

\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [command=,
    textstyle=,
    numbercommand=\setff{sups},
    textcommand=\setff{sups}]






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Re: Superscript-fontfeature for footnotenumbers

[Andreas Harder]

Am 30.11.2009 um 18:47 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Andreas Harder wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm trying to set the superscript-fontfeature for footnote-numbers, but there isn't a '(text)numberstyle'-command, so what's the way to achieve this?
>> So far I've this:
>> \starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
>>  \definefontsynonym [Serif] [LinLibertine-Regular] [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \starttypescript [serif] [linlibertine]
>>  \definefontsynonym [LinLibertine-Regular] [name:linuxlibertineo] [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \starttypescript [linlibertine]
>>  \definetypeface [linlibertine] [rm] [serif] [linlibertine] [default]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definefontfeature[sups][sups=yes]
>> \usetypescript[linlibertine]
>> \setupbodyfont[linlibertine]
>> % \defineconversion[sups][\red\setff{sups}\arabicnumerals]
>> \definestructureconversionset[sups][][Romannumerals]
>> \setupnote
>>  [footnote]
>>  [command=\myfootnotecommand,
>>  % numberconversionset=sups,
>>  % textnumberstyle=\setff{sups}, % would be nice
>>  ]
>> \def\myfootnotecommand#1{\hbox to .5em{\setff{sups}#1}}
>> \starttext \dorecurse{12}{This\footnote{Hello World #1} is a test. }
>> \stoptext
> 
> I need to look into the numberstyle comand as well as some duplicate command being applied but here is a test
> 
> \setupnote
>  [footnote]
>  [command=Z,
>   style=X,
>   textstyle=Q,
>   numbercommand=N\setff{sups},
>   textcommand=T\setff{sups},
>   numberstyle=S\setff{sups},
>  %style=\setff{sups}, % interesting effect
>  ]
> 
> for the moment stick to
> 
> \setupnote
>  [footnote]
>  [command=,
>   textstyle=,
>   numbercommand=\setff{sups},
>   textcommand=\setff{sups}]

Thank you, it works! … and was so easy

Andreas
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Re: Superscript-fontfeature for footnotenumbers

[Hans Hagen]

Andreas Harder wrote:

>> I need to look into the numberstyle comand as well as some duplicate command being applied but here is a test

\setupenumerations
   [footnote]
   [     style=\type{(es)},
     headstyle=\type{(hs)}]

\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [        style=\type{(s)},
          command=\type{(c)},
      textcommand=\type{(tc)},
        textstyle=\type{(ts)},
      numberstyle=\type{(ns)},
    numbercommand=\type{(nc)}]

\setuplayout[backspace=6cm,marginwidth=cm,width=middle]

\starttext
     \dorecurse{9}{This\footnote{Hello World #1} is a test.\par }
\stoptext

i added numberstyle ... this test shows where thinsg end up

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Re: Superscript-fontfeature for footnotenumbers

[Andreas Harder]

Am 01.12.2009 um 00:01 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Andreas Harder wrote:
> 
>>> I need to look into the numberstyle comand as well as some duplicate command being applied but here is a test
> 
> \setupenumerations
>  [footnote]
>  [     style=\type{(es)},
>    headstyle=\type{(hs)}]
> 
> \setupnote
>  [footnote]
>  [        style=\type{(s)},
>         command=\type{(c)},
>     textcommand=\type{(tc)},
>       textstyle=\type{(ts)},
>     numberstyle=\type{(ns)},
>   numbercommand=\type{(nc)}]
> 
> \setuplayout[backspace=6cm,marginwidth=cm,width=middle]
> 
> \starttext
>    \dorecurse{9}{This\footnote{Hello World #1} is a test.\par }
> \stoptext
> 
> i added numberstyle ... this test shows where thinsg end up

Thank you, this make things clear.

Greetings,
	Andreas
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