* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
@ 2013-04-10 10:59 "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-10 21:00 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-10 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Can you add “mode=node” to \definefontfeature in the typescript based solution.
Ok, now the kerning is exactly the same, what does mode=node do?
Huseyin
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
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@ 2013-04-10 9:56 ` "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-10 10:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-10 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am 10.04.2013 11:27, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> This is no problem because they have different names, you can try the following example:
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>
> \setmainfont[Garamond]
> %\setmainfont[Adobe Garamond Pro]
> %\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
> %\setmainfont[EBGaramond]
> %\setmainfont[Stempel Garamond]
>
> \starttext
> Regular, \it Italic, \bf Bold and \bi Bolditalic.
> \stoptext
With
\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
it works! The first and second does not work.
>
>> >Another interesting question: I compared the results using the Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging. Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in "Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont.
>> >
>> >Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and Simplefont comes from?
> Maybe a kerning issue, you can add \showfontkerns at the begin of your document to visualize the kerning.
>
> Wolfgang
\showfontkerns works with Simplefont, but not with Typescript. More
precisely:
This shows kerning:
+++++++++++++
\showfontkerns
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[AGaramondPro][boldfont=AGaramondPro-Bold,
italicfont=AGaramondPro-Italic, bolditalicfont=AGaramondPro-BoldItalic,
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
\setupalign[hz, hanging]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
++++++++++++++
But this one not:
+++++++++++++
\showfontkerns
\starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
\stoptypescript
\definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
\definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [default] [features=default]
\setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
++++++++++++++++
Where the mistake?
And independent from that: That the kerning is different, is for sure
(by visual inspection). How can the showing in numbers (showkerning)
help to understand the reason for this difference? (Just interested to
learn more about ConTeXt, of course I am not able to fix anything or
understand it by myself).
Huseyin
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2013-04-10 9:56 ` "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-04-10 10:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-04-10 10:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 10.04.2013 um 11:56 schrieb H. Özoguz <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
> Am 10.04.2013 11:27, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>> This is no problem because they have different names, you can try the following example:
>>
>> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>>
>> \setmainfont[Garamond]
>> %\setmainfont[Adobe Garamond Pro]
>> %\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
>> %\setmainfont[EBGaramond]
>> %\setmainfont[Stempel Garamond]
>>
>> \starttext
>> Regular, \it Italic, \bf Bold and \bi Bolditalic.
>> \stoptext
> With
>
> \setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
>
> it works! The first and second does not work.
>
>>
>>> >Another interesting question: I compared the results using the Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging. Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in "Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont.
>>> >
>>> >Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and Simplefont comes from?
>> Maybe a kerning issue, you can add \showfontkerns at the begin of your document to visualize the kerning.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> \showfontkerns works with Simplefont, but not with Typescript. More precisely:
>
> This shows kerning:
> +++++++++++++
> \showfontkerns
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>
> \setmainfont[AGaramondPro][boldfont=AGaramondPro-Bold,
>
> italicfont=AGaramondPro-Italic, bolditalicfont=AGaramondPro-BoldItalic,
>
> protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
>
> \setupalign[hz, hanging]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
> ++++++++++++++
>
>
> But this one not:
>
> +++++++++++++
>
> \showfontkerns
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
>
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
>
> \stoptypescript
>
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>
> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [default] [features=default]
>
> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
> ++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Where the mistake?
>
> And independent from that: That the kerning is different, is for sure (by visual inspection). How can the showing in numbers (showkerning) help to understand the reason for this difference? (Just interested to learn more about ConTeXt, of course I am not able to fix anything or understand it by myself).
Can you add “mode=node” to \definefontfeature in the typescript based solution.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
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@ 2013-04-10 8:46 ` "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-10 9:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-10 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Am 10.04.2013 10:29, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=*garamond*
I got this:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
adobegaramondpro agaramondprobold
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
adobegaramondprobold agaramondprobold
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
adobegaramondproitalic agaramondprobolditalic
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
adobegaramondpronormal agaramondproitalic
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
adobegaramondproregular agaramondprobold
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
agaramondprobold agaramondprobold
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
agaramondprobolditalic agaramondprobolditalic
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
agaramondproitalic agaramondproitalic
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
agaramondproregular agaramondproregular
c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
ebgaramond ebgaramond08regular
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramond08regular ebgaramond08regular
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramond08regularsmallcaps ebgaramond08sc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
ebgaramond08sc ebgaramond08sc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
ebgaramond12allsc ebgaramond12allsc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12allscnormal ebgaramond12allsc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12italic ebgaramond12italic
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
ebgaramond12regular ebgaramond12regular
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Regular.otf
ebgaramond12regularallsmallcaps ebgaramond12allsc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12regularsmallcaps ebgaramond12sc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
ebgaramond12sc ebgaramond12sc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramondinitialsf1 ebgaramondinitialsf1
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsf2 ebgaramondinitialsf2
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1 ebgaramondinitialsf1
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1normal ebgaramondinitialsf1
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1regular ebgaramondinitialsf1
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2 ebgaramondinitialsf2
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2normal ebgaramondinitialsf2
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2regular ebgaramondinitialsf2
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsnormal ebgaramondinitials
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramondinitialsregular ebgaramondinitials
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramonditalic ebgaramond12italic
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
ebgaramondnormal ebgaramond08regular
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramondregular ebgaramond08regular
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramondsc ebgaramond08sc
c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
garamond garamond c:/windows/fonts/GARA.TTF
garamondantiqua garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
garamondbold garamondbold c:/windows/fonts/GARABD.TTF
garamondhalbfett garamondhalbfett
c:/windows/fonts/91547.ttf
garamonditalic garamonditalic c:/windows/fonts/GARAIT.TTF
garamondkursiv garamondkursiv c:/windows/fonts/91546.ttf
garamondkursivhalbfett garamondkursivhalbfett
c:/windows/fonts/91548.ttf
garamondnormal garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
stempelgaramondbold stempelgaramondbold
c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
stempelgaramondbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic
c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
stempelgaramonditalic stempelgaramonditalic
c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
stempelgaramondroman stempelgaramondroman
c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
stempelgaramondromanbold stempelgaramondbold
c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
stempelgaramondromanbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic
c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
stempelgaramondromanitalic stempelgaramonditalic
c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
stempelgaramondromannormal stempelgaramondroman
c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
++++++++++++++++++++++
Maybe too many different garamonds?
Another interesting question: I compared the results using the
Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging.
Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with
Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a
capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in
"Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the
typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont.
Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and
Simplefont comes from?
Huseyin
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2013-04-10 8:46 ` "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-04-10 9:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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Am 10.04.2013 um 10:46 schrieb "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
> Am 10.04.2013 10:29, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>> mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=*garamond*
> I got this:
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
> adobegaramondpro agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
> adobegaramondprobold agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
> adobegaramondproitalic agaramondprobolditalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
> adobegaramondpronormal agaramondproitalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
> adobegaramondproregular agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
> agaramondprobold agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
> agaramondprobolditalic agaramondprobolditalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
> agaramondproitalic agaramondproitalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
> agaramondproregular agaramondproregular c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
> ebgaramond ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
> ebgaramond08regular ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
> ebgaramond08regularsmallcaps ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
> ebgaramond08sc ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
> ebgaramond12allsc ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
> ebgaramond12allscnormal ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
> ebgaramond12italic ebgaramond12italic c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
> ebgaramond12regular ebgaramond12regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Regular.otf
> ebgaramond12regularallsmallcaps ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
> ebgaramond12regularsmallcaps ebgaramond12sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
> ebgaramond12sc ebgaramond12sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
> ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsf1 ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsf2 ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill1 ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill1normal ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill1regular ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill2 ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill2normal ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsfill2regular ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsnormal ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
> ebgaramondinitialsregular ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
> ebgaramonditalic ebgaramond12italic c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
> ebgaramondnormal ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
> ebgaramondregular ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
> ebgaramondsc ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
> garamond garamond c:/windows/fonts/GARA.TTF
> garamondantiqua garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
> garamondbold garamondbold c:/windows/fonts/GARABD.TTF
> garamondhalbfett garamondhalbfett c:/windows/fonts/91547.ttf
> garamonditalic garamonditalic c:/windows/fonts/GARAIT.TTF
> garamondkursiv garamondkursiv c:/windows/fonts/91546.ttf
> garamondkursivhalbfett garamondkursivhalbfett c:/windows/fonts/91548.ttf
> garamondnormal garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
> stempelgaramondbold stempelgaramondbold c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
> stempelgaramondbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
> stempelgaramonditalic stempelgaramonditalic c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
> stempelgaramondroman stempelgaramondroman c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
> stempelgaramondromanbold stempelgaramondbold c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
> stempelgaramondromanbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
> stempelgaramondromanitalic stempelgaramonditalic c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
> stempelgaramondromannormal stempelgaramondroman c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Maybe too many different garamonds?
This is no problem because they have different names, you can try the following example:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Garamond]
%\setmainfont[Adobe Garamond Pro]
%\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
%\setmainfont[EBGaramond]
%\setmainfont[Stempel Garamond]
\starttext
Regular, \it Italic, \bf Bold and \bi Bolditalic.
\stoptext
> Another interesting question: I compared the results using the Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging. Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in "Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont.
>
> Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and Simplefont comes from?
Maybe a kerning issue, you can add \showfontkerns at the begin of your document to visualize the kerning.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
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@ 2013-04-10 8:00 ` "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-10 8:06 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-04-10 8:07 ` "H. Özoguz"
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-10 8:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am 10.04.2013 00:44, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> I corrected your example above:
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>
> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [features=default]
>
> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
Hi Wolfgang,
thank you. But your correction does not work, too. With your code the
font AGaramondPro is not used, and no hanging either (even not with the
then used Standard-Font). If I remove
[features=default]
then again Garamond is used, but still without hanging. It seems very
tricky to define these things correctly, at least for me... :)
Thanks.
Huseyin
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Am 10.04.2013 um 10:00 schrieb "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
> Am 10.04.2013 00:44, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
>> I corrected your example above:
>>
>> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
>> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>>
>> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [features=default]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>>
>> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input tufte
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Wolfgang
> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> thank you. But your correction does not work, too. With your code the font AGaramondPro is not used, and no hanging either (even not with the then used Standard-Font). If I remove
>
> [features=default]
>
> then again Garamond is used, but still without hanging. It seems very tricky to define these things correctly, at least for me... :)
I missed a parameter for \definetypeface, replace the defintion above with this one:
\definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [default] [features=default]
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
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2013-04-10 8:00 ` "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-04-10 8:07 ` "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-10 8:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-10 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am 10.04.2013 00:44, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
> Or with the marvelous simplefonts module:
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setmainfont[AGaramondPro][boldfont=AGaramondPro-Bold,
> italicfont=AGaramondPro-Italic, bolditalicfont=AGaramondPro-BoldItalic,
> protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
> \setupalign[hz, hanging]
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
Thank your very much Peter, that works! I tried many times to get it
work with SimpleFont, but did not know, that it is possible with
SimpleFont to define regular, italic, bold separately.
By the way: I still do not understand, why it is not possible in ConTeXt
(in Simplefont) just to say
\setmainfont[AGaramondPro]
and nothing more! It should identify regular, bold, italic
automatically, like all other programms here do without problems. Or do
I miss an important point here?
Thanks for your help.
Huseyin
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* Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
@ 2013-04-09 13:10 "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-09 19:21 ` Hans Hagen
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-09 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hi there,
normally I use simplefont, with protrusion and typescript. But
Simplefont does not recognize the regular, italic, and bold of
AdobeGaramondPro correctly by default. So I tried to work with a
typescript definition, and it works - with the exception of hanging (and
protrusion?). This is my example:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
\enableregime[utf]
\starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus]
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
+++++++++++++++++++++
The Font is correctly used by ConText, but no hanging is applied. How to
achieve that?
Thanks.
Huseyin
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
2013-04-09 13:10 "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-04-09 19:21 ` Hans Hagen
2013-04-09 19:45 ` "H. Özoguz"
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-04-09 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: "H. Özoguz"
On 4/9/2013 3:10 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> normally I use simplefont, with protrusion and typescript. But
> Simplefont does not recognize the regular, italic, and bold of
> AdobeGaramondPro correctly by default. So I tried to work with a
> typescript definition, and it works - with the exception of hanging (and
> protrusion?). This is my example:
Best look into some type-imp files to see how typescript are defined.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++
> \enableregime[utf]
^^ not needed
> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
>
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
>
> \stoptypescript
what features? maybe add *default or so ... depends on how general
definitions are
>
> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus]
>
>
> \definefontfeature
>
> [default]
>
> [default]
>
> [protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
should come before \definetypeface
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
> +++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> The Font is correctly used by ConText, but no hanging is applied. How to
> achieve that?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Huseyin
>
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2013-04-09 19:21 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-04-09 19:45 ` "H. Özoguz"
2013-04-09 21:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-04-09 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
>
> Best look into some type-imp files to see how typescript are defined.
I looked in the wiki, and my minexample is from the wiki, too. What is a
"type-imp"?
So I changed the code into:
+++++++++++++++
\starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
\stoptypescript
\definefontfeature
[default]
[default]
[protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
\definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
++++++++++++++++++++
Hanging is now activated, but not with the defined font "AGaramondPro",
but with Computer Modern, so now the typescript is not accepted. So
changing the command orders does not help, at least not alone.
Sorry, I did not understand, what you mean with
"what features? maybe add *default or so ... depends on how general
definitions are".
Which "features" do you mean, and what is the question? I simply copied
this from the wiki, and hoped that I could use AdobeGaramond now. It
works, but not together with Hanging.
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
2013-04-09 19:45 ` "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-04-09 21:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-04-09 21:54 ` Peter Münster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-04-09 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 09.04.2013 um 21:45 schrieb "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:
>
>>
>> Best look into some type-imp files to see how typescript are defined.
>
> I looked in the wiki, and my minexample is from the wiki, too. What is a "type-imp"?
Hans speaks of the type-imp-texgyre.mkiv, type-imp-latinmodern.mkiv etc. files
> So I changed the code into:
> +++++++++++++++
> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
>
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
>
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
>
> \stoptypescript
>
>
>
> \definefontfeature
>
> [default]
>
> [default]
>
> [protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>
>
> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
> ++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
> Hanging is now activated, but not with the defined font "AGaramondPro", but with Computer Modern, so now the typescript is not accepted. So changing the command orders does not help, at least not alone.
You tried to load your nimbus font before it was defined, move \definetypeface *before* \setupbodyfont to make it work.
> Sorry, I did not understand, what you mean with
> "what features? maybe add *default or so ... depends on how general definitions are".
You need [features=default] either at the end of each \definefontsynonym command or at the end of \definetypeface.
> Which "features" do you mean, and what is the question? I simply copied this from the wiki, and hoped that I could use AdobeGaramond now. It works, but not together with Hanging.
I corrected your example above:
\starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
\stoptypescript
\definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
\definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [features=default]
\setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Hanging and Protrusion with Typescript
2013-04-09 21:20 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-04-09 21:54 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-04-09 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Apr 09 2013, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> \starttypescript [serif] [nimbus]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [file:AGaramondPro-Regular.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [file:AGaramondPro-Bold.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-Italic.otf]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [file:AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>
> \definetypeface [nimbus] [rm] [serif] [nimbus] [features=default]
>
> \setupbodyfont[nimbus,rm,12pt]
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> \starttext
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
Or with the marvelous simplefonts module:
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[AGaramondPro][boldfont=AGaramondPro-Bold,
italicfont=AGaramondPro-Italic, bolditalicfont=AGaramondPro-BoldItalic,
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
\setupalign[hz, hanging]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
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