From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19556 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ciro Soto Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: chancery font Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:22:04 -0400 Message-ID: <297ee2eb0504030922756d8b06@mail.gmail.com> References: <424FF7AC.4050507@hccnet.nl> <20050403155750.15083@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> Reply-To: ciro@kavyata.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112545440 5547 80.91.229.2 (3 Apr 2005 16:24:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 03 18:23:55 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DI7t3-0003f5-EK for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 18:23:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4093112861; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01672-01; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:25:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54161288F; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:23:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E501B12861 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01562-06 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A73D12892 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 18:22:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so982354rna for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=opCE/msh+FLA/vRhpjsi02a8FMNqrUjcWo54icUOCVon/nOzmGE7LsDex0wkR2so5yy23GyMJFY89h/76DmBE7SPfUOh5CXSmw7q6Indgp2hj8PUpTkimOTinta3lwquYrYuoyohw6jPsO16+cFlT0IJWb8sCkO2OehgCl24Hq4= Original-Received: by 10.38.12.35 with SMTP id 35mr4478797rnl; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.38.90.21 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 09:22:04 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <20050403155750.15083@mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19556 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19556 My problem goes beyond fonts. What I think I need is a simple explanation of the TeX-like package system. For instance: I see tetex,pdftex,contex, latex,web2c,...and so on, but I don't understand their interrelation/dependency. Why the livetex tree is like it is? What is needed for a context user? What are the steps to upgrade context with a cont-tmf.zip and a texlive2004? Would it be possible to create an shell script that automize all this? Where are fonts registered/stored/mapped/encoded? Most books on TeX,latex, etc, only explain how to use them, but not the 'system administration' part, which must of us have to learn as well. BTW, I used Idris instructions (without step4 because my texfont works) and I have installed three different fonts so far. Actually, I converted TTF fonts to pfb/afm, then used the Idris steps, and I am happy. Now I hace to learn how to build typescript files, and learn where to put them, and the mapping/encoding business. regards Ciro On Apr 3, 2005 10:57 AM, Adam Lindsay wrote: > Rob Ermers said this at Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:03:24 +0200: > > >I completely agree. Context works fine but, like you, I have not > >succeeded in installing any new font thusfar. > > Okay, I get the message: there are quite a few frustrated would-be font > users out there. I see it as being something that someone can understand > (and explain) fairly well in the abstract, but the details throw up > distribution-specific problems. > > So, because it's the only area I can hope to fix, are there any Mac users > out there (gwTeX) that are (still) frustrated with fonts in the way that > Rob and Ciro are? > > For those Mac users, is it a matter of using pre-installed fonts > (Palatino, Helvetica, etc.), or installing your own fonts that is so > frustrating? > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk > Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 > Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > -- ======================================= "All problems are at the interface. Each one of them has a solution." from: "The Guitar Maker, An Exploration of Wisdom, Design and Love." A novel by C. A. Soto Aguirre. Pub. Date: Aug. 2005.