From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19576 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ciro Soto Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: chancery font Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 16:25:56 -0400 Message-ID: <297ee2eb0504031325175ae523@mail.gmail.com> References: <42AE2AED@webmail.colostate.edu> Reply-To: ciro@kavyata.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112559890 11053 80.91.229.2 (3 Apr 2005 20:24:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 03 22:24:44 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIBdv-0006hw-CF for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:24:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB70712912; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:26:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04765-03-8; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F011128FF; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:26:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15A128FF for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:26:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04765-03-7 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:25:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C7C128EE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:25:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r35so1010938rna for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NWpjephTEbXuhcQUD6RaDsE3MLqWt4XWBLiPLilz7mxg436AuUO8mA/EW7lrqAIenyWZWZaxSN5wem9X1zlhb7Y9UNSRqdowXICNiqrOMq8EG5mOHXxBmag+1wumz/fKYpdCZXFIckpWuUf7y1c370fgv4Sz7TTRnk7pirqOXOI= Original-Received: by 10.38.151.1 with SMTP id y1mr4630549rnd; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.38.90.21 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Idris Samawi Hamid , ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <42AE2AED@webmail.colostate.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19576 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19576 Idris, thank you very much for your explanations... they are very helpful. regarding ttf translation, I have in my system (I guess it came with texlive2004) a little software "ttf2pt1" that does the job. unix> ttf2pt1 -b fontname.ttf and it produces the two files: fontname.afm, fontname.pfb which then I used with your "cooking" instructions for garamond... BTW, how do you use a ttf font directly in context? thank you Ciro On Apr 3, 2005 2:45 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > >===== Original Message From ciro@kavyata.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users > ===== > >My problem goes beyond fonts. What I think I need is a simple explanation > >of the TeX-like package system. For instance: > > > >I see tetex,pdftex,contex, latex,web2c,...and so on, but I don't understand > >their interrelation/dependency. > > teTeX, fpTeX, gwTeX, and MiKTeX are os-dependent distrbutions. > > LaTeX and ConTeXt are os-independent macropackages. > > Web2C is the Pascal-to-C translator that allows compilation of TeX on Unix, > Windows, etc. /web2c is the directory that contains configuration files and > os-dependent format files. But I don't know why it's called "/web2c" > > >Why the livetex tree is like it is? What is needed for a context user? > > ConTeXt has become so detailed and powerful, and changes so fast, that the > os-dependent distrbutions can't keep up. I predict that one day ConTeXt will > be completely independent of TeXLive. Some of the problems many of us have > been facing ultimately boil down to the growing, but not yet complete, > independence of ConTeXt from TeXLive. Personally, I think this a good thing, > because ConTeXt is really a stand-alone system in the final analysis. > mswincontext.zip is _almost_ there; maybe Hans could use volunteers to build > and maintain independent Mac and Unix packages a la mswincontext.zip. Then we > could contribute to a test/torture suite to make sure that everything runs > identically on all os's. Each of us may have pet issues that concern us (I > have my aleph work for example, there are fonts, xml, etc). > > >What are the steps to upgrade context with a cont-tmf.zip and a texlive2004? > >Would it be possible to create an shell script that automize all this? > > I would get the tetex package from pragma, install it in its own tree, define > your path so that your ConTeXt bin is searched BEFORE TeXLive's, and have your > shell script initialize your tree (maybe there are instructions in the teTeX > package). I modified my setuptex.bat so that my ConTeXt tree would search my > TeXLive tree as well; I suppose you could do the same with setuptex.csh. > > > > >Where are fonts registered/stored/mapped/encoded? > > There is a document somewhere on the TeX Directory Structure (tds), I think. > Look in /texmf/doc/tds > > > > >Most books on TeX,latex, etc, only explain how to use them, but not > >the 'system administration' part, which must of us have to learn as well. > > There is an old book, Making TeX Work, that aimed to do just this. But it's 11 > years old and woefully out of date. > > > > >BTW, I used Idris instructions (without step4 because my texfont works) > >and I have installed three different fonts so far. Actually, I > >converted TTF fonts > >to pfb/afm, then used the Idris steps, and I am happy. > > How did you convert ttf>pfb? I did this once using FontLab and I lost all my > macron accents:-( > > But texfont and pdfetex work with ttf files so there is no need to convert:-) > > Now I hace to learn how > >to build typescript files, and learn where to put them, > > What I did was just get one complete working typescript and model my other > typescripts on that one. If type-ugm is working for you, just study that one. > Five steps: > > % raw fonts > %Names > %Synonyms > %maps > %typefaces > > Note that you can mix and match fonts to create your own complete typefaces. I > am enclosing a typescript I did for Times New Roman and Arial (type-tnr.tex) > that I posted a few weeks ago. > > About placing type-* files: You can put them anywhere in your TeX path; I put > mine, along with some other private configuration files, in > /texmf-local/tex/generic/private, but you can put them anywhere you like under > your TeX path. > > >and the mapping/encoding > >business. > > I think you don't have to worry about this too much, except that texfont > defaults to texnansi, while the fonts that come with TeXLive are mostly ec. So > you should avoid use of \char as much as possible in your macros, and stick to > character control sequences like \circumflex. > > Best > Idris > > ============================ > Professor Idris Samawi Hamid > Department of Philosophy > Colorado State University > Fort Collins, CO 80523 > > -- ======================================= "All problems are at the interface. Each one of them has a solution." from: "The Guitar Maker, An Exploration of Wisdom, Design and Love." A novel by C. A. Soto Aguirre. Pub. Date: Aug. 2005.