From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24771 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ciro Soto Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: smaller symbol Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <297ee2eb0512271000h12abb72fgc9d5fce33021170d@mail.gmail.com> References: <297ee2eb0512252124x1833a03aoc222b577d73df921@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00512270625o4135de15h6ccf33d5f186353@mail.gmail.com> <297ee2eb0512271000y3934410ao9538033807cffe0@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: ciro@kavyata.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1293595482==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135706462 23597 80.91.229.2 (27 Dec 2005 18:01:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Dec 27 19:01:00 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErJ7z-00033x-70 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A73127E6; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20503-04; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424FB127E7; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:45 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F15B127E7 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20486-10-2 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.196]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id EAD09127E6 for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:00:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i26so792829wxd for ; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:00:40 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i8hf1C4OWX78iesPR3Fxb8xa0K6xRn1W0TiCFCXtp8mMq3YhZm8lymFxuXL5rmLCtSd2NZMytx6s2mK479/WT3ScyP3pceLskMjSvblMt+0s86R2G4yG8PbqauqO/bWhu/zTCZ8p7uSmjl1RBc0vIBYeclhPtWYl6TexmttuSWc= Original-Received: by 10.70.7.19 with SMTP id 19mr6910496wxg; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:00:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.70.84.2 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:00:40 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <297ee2eb0512271000y3934410ao9538033807cffe0@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24771 Archived-At: --===============1293595482== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30111_28577464.1135706440563" ------=_Part_30111_28577464.1135706440563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thank you Taco and Mojca. I had tried with \guillemotright and \guillemotleft based on a latex manua= l I found in the web. Since it didn't work, I then tried the \ll and \gg combination. Thank you Taco for the right syntax of the keywords. Ciro On 12/27/05, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > On 12/26/05, Ciro Soto wrote: > > Invisible Friends: > > > > I am trying to use \ll and \gg instead of quotation marks. > > The problem is that they are too big for my taste. > > What would be the easiest way to make them, say 0.75\bodyfontsize ? > > I guess that \leftguillemot instead of "\ll" already solves the > problem, but if you really want to scale them, it's most elegant to do > it this way: > > \installlanguage > [es] > [leftquotation=3D{\scale[height=3D.75ex]{\leftguillemot}}, > rightquotation=3D{\scale[height=3D.75ex]{\rightguillemot}}] > % .75\bodyfontsize is way too big > % or the ugly \fakeleftguillemot instead of \leftguillemot, as Taco > proposed > > \mainlanguage[es] > \starttext > \quotation{To quote or not to quote,} that's the question! > \stoptext > > (Even if you don't need to scale them, this is the way how to get > guillemots instead of "double commas".) > > The only problem is that they're scaled so that baseline remains where > it is: quotation marks are placed too low because of that. So you > probably want to do raise them a bit as well: > \raise.25ex\hbox{\scale[height=3D.5ex]{\rightguillemot}} > > Mojca > -- "All problems are at the interface. Each one of them has a solution." from: "The Guitar Maker: An Exploration of Wisdom, Design and Love." A novel by C. A. Soto Aguirre. http://www.TheGuitarMakerExploration.com/ ------=_Part_30111_28577464.1135706440563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Thank you Taco and Mojca.
I had tried with \guillemotright and \guillemotleft  based on a latex = manual
I found in the web. Since it didn't work, I then tried the \ll and \gg comb= ination.
Thank you Taco for the right syntax of the keywords.
Ciro


= On 12/27/05, Mojc= a Miklavec < mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/26/05, Ciro Soto wrote:
> Invisible Friends:
>
>&nb= sp; I am trying to use \ll and \gg instead of quotation marks.
>=   The problem is that they are too big for my taste.
> = ; What would be the easiest way to make them, say=20 0.75\bodyfontsize ?

I guess that \leftguillemot instead of "\ll= " already solves the
problem, but if you really want to scale them,= it's most elegant to do
it this way:

\installlanguage
 &= nbsp;[es]
  [leftquotation=3D{\scale[height=3D.75ex]{\leftguillemot}},<= br>   rightquotation=3D{\scale[height=3D.75ex]{\rightguillemot}}]=
   % .75\bodyfontsize is way too big
   % or the= ugly \fakeleftguillemot instead of \leftguillemot, as Taco proposed

\mainlanguage[es]
\starttext
\quotation{To quote or not to qu= ote,} that's the question!
\stoptext

(Even if you don't need to s= cale them, this is the way how to get
guillemots instead of "double= commas".)

The only problem is that they're scaled so that baseline remains wh= ere
it is: quotation marks are placed too low because of that. So youprobably want to do raise them a bit as well:
\raise.25ex\hbox{\scale[h= eight=3D.5ex]{\rightguillemot}}

Mojca




--
"All problems are at the int= erface. Each one of them has a solution."
from: "The Guitar Ma= ker: An Exploration of Wisdom, Design and Love."
A novel by C. A. = Soto Aguirre.
http://www.TheGui= tarMakerExploration.com/
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