From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/104675 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Huseyin_=c3=96zoguz?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Place footnote after reference Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:16 +0200 Message-ID: <2c8be82d-a63b-cd98-9f1f-bb1cffbd3365@mmnetz.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0220804697031116478==" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="223494"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: taco@elvenkind.com Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jul 23 10:48:53 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hpqTa-000vx3-PI for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3660F152BEF; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3bhRd5JyE-E; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F82152BEA; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02865152BEA for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fqSIphVq9W3p for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: None (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=212.227.126.130; helo=mout.kundenserver.de; envelope-from=h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de; receiver= Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6013A1529A3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.178.23] ([188.108.28.18]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue011 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwQCb-1ifc4Z0b0n-00sKL4; Tue, 23 Jul 2019 10:48:14 +0200 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mcX6s6aHiF1p09BYrZcpyV82JA1JuJzKQcPxpSt4j0HVwYPHTcA sebc2Ms3mcxhJKG5oo+dhfwbIcCGYynUvp0loc3Pxr4el0q/CHA7IejhxBNo2hq8dEt0LQ3 W1Lucqjng69HZ293ewESlnaXvroXcqZDdNY1o8mkRkvCF32MU0b35dHnche7lJRf1FlpMJy APKicyMg8ox8k/OfXhvIw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qDXX6tLfmRw=:DqrDHoAepbVwOhQHqlM7cu Xm7R8NmcCPgzKENYn9k/yllAHYnyzo5XHrh56mFINx2QSVp66CIaDFLLZVYjESpKvD5unZVl5 O6ERU19SNUp7Jf+g8yYVE8Ib2m6EX0e9qXnlWzSG6EbEHCo/5riqNhKgnO5FYMoNGR5NTSwy6 YeVwR2Fvla6Ysn13+MZelpp6TinjZv8UWqURRH3RZCAkWKbatvMyrOBn/ir8tRAybfVIhvx9l 1/8SKRh7ZpwQNt/gkWzY+q2UxBlGyxPqQdG4jb7J4ajxwu+8db83VSTHrUnWFZkreYiJK1lbI CeZ6S1qHlFpqS2qz8p2ZVRmCZ+xCxNlAkLWMk3jaorzu839L1BJOnMvhERNIB7J5pjBPIviwn MvU9di9J3P4F3bv9nfSHbKKtRQhTb6YoXuBVynZpgfsQ2XF8Y0l6JwIUKpkn42rFuUo6NRz8j hOZ5/3xBJVenr2xhgcKXnm7CtzzF39l6gWb5QSeY0jdho0iGWOQ4Iy24CZF+65g/2NRvp347n n9VkKZLfKcq8YbyZEmOSJ4ZACeUZZhXP4eyVlzmO0P5mzqkUeS05tnJSAVS8GOlr+GVlVkjHb hLxdftxhp12HrUrZ/nwvrZxFJt7C/ssMe0IztSwRP+rgqAQ4CfZ2da/8scGki1JuO0SohsQC+ TCXAuRIYsvgDxdeBFdc47PEMOiqjusardpXR8/LBzcTARknE/MVt+GYr852JTqWO3zPoV3Ay6 HS+W5cVJeZUe1N2x5OR4v0pvavSyKQzFa8iOTqtMWc3Ah7uh3uj/NeefpIE= X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:104675 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0220804697031116478== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------01728A87327F57F8287DA1D4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------01728A87327F57F8287DA1D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank Taco, that worked in the example, of course the general problem stays (thanks to Rik Kabel, too). But with your suggestion I dicovered a interesting behaviour, see this example: \showgrid \setupnote[footnote][before=] \starttext \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1} \input tufte \input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} That does\footnote{Footnote 3} only\footnote{Footnote 4} work in special cases. \stoptext Now Context indeed sets the third and fourth footnote on the second page, but leaves the reference to them on the last line of the first page. This is exactly the behaviour I want in general. Could we force that? /For testing: /If we add another footnote in the example above, it fails again - despite of the possibility to just typeset the lines exactly like in the example above, just move the footnotes on the next page, not the references - here might be some logic-mistake at work, because there should be no difference in my opinion between the examples: \showgrid \setupnote[footnote][before=] \starttext \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1} \input tufte \input tufte \footnote{Footnote extra} \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} That does\footnote{Footnote 3} only\footnote{Footnote 4} work in special cases. \stoptext -- Huseyin Özoguz E-Mail: h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de --------------01728A87327F57F8287DA1D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Thank Taco, that worked in the example, of course the general problem stays (thanks to Rik Kabel, too).

But with your suggestion I dicovered a interesting behaviour, see this example:

\showgrid
\setupnote[footnote][before=]
\starttext
\input tufte
\input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1}
\input tufte
\input tufte \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} That does\footnote{Footnote 3} only\footnote{Footnote 4} work in special cases.
\stoptext

Now Context indeed sets the third and fourth footnote on the second page, but leaves the reference to them on the last line of the first page. This is exactly the behaviour I want in general. Could we force that?

For testing: If we add another footnote in the example above, it fails again - despite of the possibility to just typeset the lines exactly like in the example above, just move the footnotes on the next page, not the references - here might be some logic-mistake at work, because there should be no difference in my opinion between the examples:

\showgrid
\setupnote[footnote][before=]
\starttext
\input tufte
\input tufte \footnote{Footnote 1}
\input tufte
\input tufte \footnote{Footnote extra} \dorecurse{35}{Blub or what }\footnote{Footnote 2} That does\footnote{Footnote 3} only\footnote{Footnote 4} work in special cases.
\stoptext

-- 
Huseyin Özoguz

E-Mail: h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de
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