From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19759 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: undefined guillemots Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:35 +0200 Message-ID: <2cc009f40f7129956a06411b9be85d49@fiee.net> References: <1ec9559b80018f5bc421e57760143f6f@dandy.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113249108 21638 80.91.229.2 (11 Apr 2005 19:51:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 19:51:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Apr 11 21:51:46 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DL4vj-0004GW-M3 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:50:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E2F127FE; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00567-06; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24EC127C3; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2590C127C3 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00770-04 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA171276B for ; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 131.56.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch[83.76.56.131] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML2Dk-1DL4yW0eW3-00054k; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1ec9559b80018f5bc421e57760143f6f@dandy.net> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:033f42bdb3cd4a3c9b0966e414a370c7 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19759 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19759 Am 11.04.2005 um 20:58 schrieb Steve Peter: >> \setuplanguage[de][ >> leftquote=3D\guilsinglleft, >> rightquote=3D\guilsinglright, >> leftquotation=3D\guillemotleft, >> rightquotation=3D\guillemotright >> ] > > setuplanguage[de][ > leftquote=3D\guilsingleleft, > rightquote=3D\guilsingleright, > leftquotation=3D\leftguillemot, > rightquotation=3D\rightguillemot > ] Thank you! But I'm confused - why there are two different names (I tried the names=20= from the encodings)? > However, this brings up a more general issue (for Hans, especially).=20= > The symbol is called a guillemet, a diminutive of Guillaume (Le Be),=20= > the typographer. It has nothing to do with the French word for word,=20= > mot. :-) Ask Google ;-) guillemet: 63200 hits guillemot: 1550000 hits guillemets: 353000 guillemots: 52900 You are right that "e" is correct, but "o" is very usual, perhaps since=20= centuries... Gr=FC=DFlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net=