[ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

I'm presently trying to type something which consists of one short question and
a (now metapost-drawn) result of this question. The old LaTeX output can be
seen at http://uuhome.de/tobias.burnus/test.dvi)

It looks like this

1. This is a rather small question              10         20          30
   which spans four small lines at            +---------------------------+-----|
   maximum.                                   |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |                                                                            |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
                                              |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
                                              |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
                                              +---------------------------+-----|

I tried:
a) define paragraph (with in a itemize), but the question is aligned on the
   bottom, which looks really odd.
b) startfiguretext[right], this is almost ok, but I get a line break between
   \item and \startfiguretext (moreover the MP is aligned on the ,,10...20...30''
and not to the ___________ below them, but this was expected.)

Tobias

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi again,

> It looks like this
> 
> 1. This is a rather small question              10         20          30
>    which spans four small lines at            +---------------------------+-----|
>    maximum.                                   |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |                            >                                               |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
>                                               |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
>                                               |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |   |     |
>                                               +---------------------------+-----|
and some questions like this
  2. Foo bar?                                   yes (or no)
  3. Which kinds of bars?
     -- barbar                                  yes
     -- triple-bar                              no

 I presently work with such a hack:
----------------------------------------
\definiereabsaetze[FragB][n=2]
\stelleabsaetzeein[FragB][1][breite=3mm]

\def\FragA#1#2#3{%
\startabbildungtext
[rechts]{kein}
{#3}
\startFragB #1.\FragB
#2\stopFragB
\stopabbildungtext}
----------------------------------------
This will give me right flushed yes/no's (i.e. \hbox{yes}), but I don't care.
but how can I best type something like 3 without too many potentially ugly
hacks?

Tobias

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:44 PM 1/15/2000 +0100, Tobias Burnus wrote:

>a) define paragraph (with in a itemize), but the question is aligned on the
>   bottom, which looks really odd.
>b) startfiguretext[right], this is almost ok, but I get a line break between
>   \item and \startfiguretext (moreover the MP is aligned on the
,,10...20...30''
>and not to the ___________ below them, but this was expected.)

I think you can best use \starttabulate ... for several reasons: 

(1) it handles multiple paragraphs, and automatically calculated the width

(2) it handles itemizes etc well

(3) it breaks across pages (in a next release even better, with tracing too)

(4) you can hook things into columns (which is what I so when I want some
value to be passed onto a graphic drawing routine), I even think it's
described somewhere in a maps

Actually, \defineparagraph, is sort of replaced by \definetabulation, and
the former is only still usefull for special cases, for instance when one
describes his/her own commands using it. There is an example of how to deal
with itemize in the beta chapter on descriptions. (you need to turn off the
pre/post white space and so).  

Hans  

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Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

> I think you can best use \starttabulate ... for several reasons:
I now use:

\starttabulate[|l|p|r|]
\NC 1. \NC This is a question \NC \useMPgraphic{foo} \NR
\stoptabulate

This results in:
                    +----------------------+
                    |                      |
                    |   MP GRAPHIC         |
                    |                      |
                    |                      |
                    |                      |
1. This is a ques-  +----------------------+
   tion. Which runs
   over several 
   lines.

That is the MP is  too high!

Tobias

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:28 AM 1/17/2000 +0100, Tobias Burnus wrote:
>Hi,

>This results in:
>                    +----------------------+
>                    |                      |
>                    |   MP GRAPHIC         |
>                    |                      |
>                    |                      |
>                    |                      |
>1. This is a ques-  +----------------------+
>   tion. Which runs
>   over several 
>   lines.

Put it in a \vtop{} or \vbox{}. Also, in supp-box.tex, you can find some
things like \sbox and so. 

Hans 

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Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi all, hallo Hans,

> >This results in:
> >                    +----------------------+
> >                    |                      |
> >                    |   MP GRAPHIC         |
> >                    |                      |
> >                    |                      |
> >                    |                      |
> >1. This is a ques-  +----------------------+
> >   tion. Which runs
> >   over several
> >   lines.
> 
> Put it in a \vtop{} or \vbox{}. Also, in supp-box.tex, you can find some
> things like \sbox and so.

I tried:
\def\FragA#1#2#3{%
\NC #1 \NC #2 \NC \vbox{#3} \NC\NR}  % or \vtop{#3}

and now: 
\NC \vtop{#1} \NC \vtop{#2} \NC \vbox{#3} \NC\NR}  % or \vbox{#3}

without any success (ConTeXt, version 2000-01-08)

using
-----
\starttabulator[|l|p|r|]
\FragA1{Eine "Ubersicht "uber den gesamten Stoff der Vorlesung wurde am Anfang
gegeben.}{\SixBox{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}{'.$in[$I++].'}}
-----
(the $in are fill-ins parts in PERL and \SixBox is a MP box, defined as:

\def\SixBox#1#2#3#4#5#6#7{%
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
% ...
\stopuseMPgraphic
\useMPgraphic{foo}}

Tobias

PS: The number of subscribers must have risen quite a lot, it takes secounds,
until I get a email at home, but approx. 30 min until I got it at university (I
was faster in the university as the email via ntg-context!).

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Hans Hagen]

At 07:46 PM 1/17/2000 +0100, Tobias Burnus wrote:
>Hi all, hallo Hans,

Ah, you must be very unhappy now, struggling with those funy boxes, compare: 

% interface=nl

\starttabulatie[|l|l|]
\NC some text \NC       \externfiguur[koe] \NC \NR
\NC some text \NC       \externfiguur[koe] \NC \NR
\stoptabulatie

\starttabulatie[|l|l|]
\NC some text \NC \tbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
\NC some text \NC \tbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
\stoptabulatie

\starttabulatie[|l|l|]
\NC some text \NC \bbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
\NC some text \NC \bbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
\stoptabulatie

Watch out: a p entry does a split and forces a lineheight. I will add a P
key later. (BTW, I've got some experimental macros that provide pretty
robust arbitrary backgrounds to table cells, even overlapping ones. Think
of a shaded cell background and alike.) 

Hans

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Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi all, hi Hans,

> Ah, you must be very unhappy now, struggling with those funy boxes, compare: 
> \starttabulatie[|l|l|]
> \NC some text \NC \bbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
> \NC some text \NC \bbox{\externfiguur[koe]} \NC \NR
> \stoptabulatie
I now use: \NC #1. \NC #2 \NC \bbox{#3} \NC\NR
But the result isn't optimal, I get:

1. This is a longer ques- +--------------------+
                          |                    |
                          |                    |
                          +--------------------+
   tion.

Using \NC #1. \NC \bbox{#2} \NC \bbox{#3} \NC\NR
doesn't help either.
\vtop{#2} has the same problem.

The problem is: I've a lot to do and this should be working today.
(I just reallized I can use `setenv shell_escape t` w/o needing
access to the texmf.cnf file. (w/o I couldn't create a MP file,
If I run mpost mpgraph afterwards I only optained one single MP
(mpgraph.51).)

Tobias

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:29 PM 1/18/2000 +0100, you wrote:

>I now use: \NC #1. \NC #2 \NC \bbox{#3} \NC\NR
>But the result isn't optimal, I get:
>
>1. This is a longer ques- +--------------------+
>                          |                    |
>                          |                    |
>                          +--------------------+
>   tion.

Can you try this with \starttable instead of \starttabulate? 

You can also generate the thing yourself and say: 

\startlinecorrection
\hbox
  {\vtop{\width.3\hsize#1\vfill}%
   \vtop{#2}%
   \vtop{#3}}
\stoplinecorrection

etc. The top will align them. If needed, put the graphics in a box and play
with the dimensions: 

\def\something#1#2#3% untested 
  {\setbox\scratchbox=\hbox{graphic}
   \scratchdimen=\hsize
   \advance\scratchdimen by -wd\scratchbox
   \advance\scratchdimen by -2em 
   \divide\scratchdimen by 2 
   \hbox to \hsize
     {\vtop{\hsize\scratchdimen\begstrut#1\endstrut\vfill}\hss
      \vtop{\box\scratchbox}\hss
      \vtop{\hsize\scratchdimen\begstrut#3\endstrut\vfill}}}

I could cook up some context stuff, but have a deadline to catch now.
Alternatively use \starttable. 

If you can provide me the *minimal* set of data needed I can take a more
detailed look. 

Hans

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Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Tobias Burnus]

> I could cook up some context stuff, but have a deadline to catch now.
> Alternatively use \starttable. 
I'll try some alternatives.

> If you can provide me the *minimal* set of data needed I can take a more
> detailed look. 
The files are:
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~burnus/fsi/evaluation.tex
http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~burnus/fsi/EVAL-AUS.tex

Tobias

Re: [ConTeXt] Boxes which commands to use

[Hans Hagen]

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Hi, 

First a few fixes: 

in supp-pdf change: 

      \font\temp=\gMPa\nofMParguments\space at \size

so, a \space is added. 

in texexec.pl add: 

  $ENV{"MPXCOMMAND"} = "0" ; 

otherwise texexec will loop, due to running mp again and again. 

(or add --nomp to mpxcommand) 

A tip: 

\def\abc#1#2#3%
  {...} 

no %'s are needed after the } here: 

\abc{a}
  {b}
{c}

in case of {} args, tex ignores spaces (unless doing a \write), which is
not the case here.  

Now, here is the solution: 

\def\GraphBox#1%
  {\hbox{\raise1.25ex\hbox{\tbox{#1}}}}

\def\FragA#1#2#3%
  {\NC #1. \NC \vtop{#2} \NC \GraphBox{#3} \NC\NR}

with (a bit minimalized): 

\starttabulator[|r|p|r|]
\FragA
  {1}
  {Eine "Ubersicht "uber den gesamten Stoff der Vorlesung wurde
   am Anfang gegeben.}
  {\SixBox{6}{1}{2}{3}{4}{5}{3{,}7}}
\noalign{\blanko}
\FragA
  {2}
  {Die Dozentin hat sich ausreichend "uber die Vorkenntnisse der
   Teilnehmerinnen orientiert}
  {\SixBox{0}{0}{0}{0}{0}{0}{0{,}0}}
\stoptabulator

this gives an acceptable result, see attachment, which can be illustrative
for others too, 

Hans

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