Endnotes

Endnotes

[Dan Seracu]

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Hello!

It maybe a stupid qestion, but it is a problem I am facing now:

I try to typeset a thesis, and I need endnotes (kind of bibliography) at the end of eatch section (or chapter when using parts). How can I do this?

Dan Seracu

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Re: Endnotes

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:21 AM 5/19/2000 +0300, Dan Seracu wrote:
>   Hello!   It maybe a stupid qestion, but it is a problem I am  facing
>now:   I try to typeset a thesis, and I need endnotes  (kind of
>bibliography) at the end of eatch section (or chapter when using  parts).
>How can I do this?   Dan Seracu  Attachment Converted:

You can disable footnote placement and call them up at the end. See english
beta chapter 'layout'. 

Hans

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Re: Endnotes

[Dan Seracu]

Hello!
> You can disable footnote placement and call them up at the end. See
english
> beta chapter 'layout'.
>
> Hans

I tried this, but the "problem" is that all the footnotes are typeset one
after another. So, how can I do to have them one under another? (clasical
endnotes, like bibliography).

Or, can I have a bibl. typeset at the end of each chapter?

Dan Seracu

Re: Endnotes

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:23 PM 5/19/2000 +0300, Dan Seracu wrote:

>I tried this, but the "problem" is that all the footnotes are typeset one
>after another. So, how can I do to have them one under another? (clasical
>endnotes, like bibliography).

\starttext

\setupfootnotes[way=bychapter,location=text]

\chapter{first}

A sentence \footnote {a note} A second sentence \footnote{a
second note} A last sentence \footnote {a last note}

\placefootnotes

\chapter{second}

A sentence \footnote{a note} A second sentence \footnote{a
second note} A last sentence \footnote{a last note}

\placefootnotes

\stoptext

Some day soon I'll make a \startchapter{...} \stopchapter so that commands
like endnote can be automated. 

Hans

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Footnotes (was: Endnotes)

[Hraban]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> \setupfootnotes[way=bychapter,location=text]

Is there a possibility to number footnotes "way=bypage"
or, better, not to number them, but to use asterisks and daggers etc.?

(There are not so much footnotes in "my" book, and the redactors don't
want numbers...)

If it worked: Could I change this behaviour for each chapter? (Saying,
there'd be one chapter with many footnotes)

-- 
Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: Footnotes (was: Endnotes)

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:52 AM 5/26/2000 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>Hans Hagen wrote:
>> \setupfootnotes[way=bychapter,location=text]
>
>Is there a possibility to number footnotes "way=bypage"
>or, better, not to number them, but to use asterisks and daggers etc.?

There is, that is, if you believe in miracles. Key in: 

\setupfootnotes[way=bypage]

\starttext

test \footnote{test} test \page
test \footnote{test} test \page
test \footnote{test} test \page

\stoptext

run texexec with your eyes closed, count to 89 and view the file. 

>(There are not so much footnotes in "my" book, and the redactors don't
>want numbers...)

There is a rather advanced system of conversion available. In the english
beta chapter on layout one can read: 

\setupfootnotes[conversion=set 3]

as a way to change the conversion. One can define his/her own conversion
sets (will be in another chapter). Set 3 is for example defined as: 

\defineconversion
  [set 3]
  [\mathematics{\star},
   \mathematics{\star\star},
   \mathematics{\star\star\star},
   \mathematics{\ddagger},
   \mathematics{\ddagger\ddagger},
   \mathematics{\ddagger\ddagger\ddagger},
   \mathematics{\P},
   \mathematics{\P\P},
   \mathematics{\P\P\P},
   \mathematics{\S},
   \mathematics{\S\S},
   \mathematics{\S\S\S},
   \mathematics{\ast},
   \mathematics{\ast\ast},
   \mathematics{\ast\ast\ast}]

See core-con.tex (conversion) for more examples. In a similar way you can
define your own sets, conversions, symbols and so on. [there are also
symbol sets]

>If it worked: Could I change this behaviour for each chapter? (Saying,
>there'd be one chapter with many footnotes)

Sure. 

Hans

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Re: endnotes

[Horacio Suarez]

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thankyou very much, Aditya .


>From: Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu>
>Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
>Subject: Re: [NTG-context] endnotes
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:12:47 -0400 (EDT)
>
>On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
> > Quoting Horacio Suarez <horaciosuarez@hotmail.com>:
> >
> >> This is an exaple, I hope it´s ok. If you coment/uncoment one of the
> >> \dorecurse lines at a time you will see. Even if there is enough
> >> place to place the foonotes, in the first case the notes jumps to a
> >> new page.
> >
> > This seems to be a bug in start/stop columns. From what I remember,
> > columns causes a page break if sum of the two columns is greater than
> > the page length. Here is an example.
>
>Here is a fix. Caveat: I do not completely understand multi-columns,
>so be careful while using this fix.
>
>\def\multicolumnseject
>    {%\message{\the\pagetotal,\the\textheight}%
>     %AM: Added divide my nofcolumns
>     \ifdim\dimexpr\pagetotal/\nofcolumns>\textheight
>       \eject % new
>     \else
>       \allowbreak
>     \fi}
>
>
>
> > \starttext
> >
> > \setupfootnotes[location={none}]
> >
> > \dorecurse{10}{
> > \chapter Capitulo1--\recurselevel{}
> >
> > \startcolumns
> >
> > % Aca va texto\footnote{foot uno}
> >
> > \dorecurse{\recurselevel}{\input tufte\par}
> >
> > % Aca más texto\footnote{foot dos}
> >
> > \stopcolumns
> >
> > \section Notas
> >
> > \input tufte
> >
> >  }
>\stoptext
>
>Aditya
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Re: endnotes

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> Quoting Horacio Suarez <horaciosuarez@hotmail.com>:
>
>> This is an exaple, I hope it´s ok. If you coment/uncoment one of the
>> \dorecurse lines at a time you will see. Even if there is enough
>> place to place the foonotes, in the first case the notes jumps to a
>> new page.
>
> This seems to be a bug in start/stop columns. From what I remember,
> columns causes a page break if sum of the two columns is greater than
> the page length. Here is an example.

Here is a fix. Caveat: I do not completely understand multi-columns, 
so be careful while using this fix.

\def\multicolumnseject
   {%\message{\the\pagetotal,\the\textheight}%
    %AM: Added divide my nofcolumns
    \ifdim\dimexpr\pagetotal/\nofcolumns>\textheight
      \eject % new
    \else
      \allowbreak
    \fi}



> \starttext
>
> \setupfootnotes[location={none}]
>
> \dorecurse{10}{
> \chapter Capitulo1--\recurselevel{}
>
> \startcolumns
>
> % Aca va texto\footnote{foot uno}
>
> \dorecurse{\recurselevel}{\input tufte\par}
>
> % Aca más texto\footnote{foot dos}
>
> \stopcolumns
>
> \section Notas
>
> \input tufte
>
>  }
\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: endnotes

[Aditya Mahajan]

Quoting Horacio Suarez <horaciosuarez@hotmail.com>:

> This is an exaple, I hope it´s ok. If you coment/uncoment one of the 
> \dorecurse lines at a time you will see. Even if there is enough 
> place to place the foonotes, in the first case the notes jumps to a 
> new page.

This seems to be a bug in start/stop columns. From what I remember, 
columns causes a page break if sum of the two columns is greater than 
the page length. Here is an example.

\starttext

\setupfootnotes[location={none}]

\dorecurse{10}{
\chapter Capitulo1--\recurselevel{}

\startcolumns

% Aca va texto\footnote{foot uno}

\dorecurse{\recurselevel}{\input tufte\par}

% Aca más texto\footnote{foot dos}

\stopcolumns

\section Notas

\input tufte

  }
\stoptext


This may help others to help what is happening.

Aditya
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Re: endnotes

[Horacio Suarez]

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This is an exaple, I hope it´s ok. If you coment/uncoment one of the 
\dorecurse lines at a time you will see. Even if there is enough place to 
place the foonotes, in the first case the notes jumps to a new page.

%%%%%%%%%%%%
\starttext

\setupfootnotes[location={none}]

    \chapter Capitulo1

   \startcolumns

        Aca va texto\footnote{foot uno}

%\dorecurse{3}{\input tufte\par}

\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte\par}

        Aca más texto\footnote{foot dos}

   \stopcolumns


\section Notas

\placefootnotes

\stoptext

%%%%%%%%%%

Thankyou for yor patient.

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Re: endnotes

[Aditya Mahajan]

Quoting Horacio Suarez <horaciosuarez@hotmail.com>:

> hello:
>
> I have a problem with endnotes.
>
> I use \placefootnotes at the end of each chapter.
>
> When the last page of a chapter is almost empty, the footnotes are placed at
> the same page, but when the las page of a chapter is almost full, the notes
> jumps to a new page.
>
> Also, I have a \stopcolumns before the notes.
>
> How can I force the notes to keep in the same page?
>
> Thankyou.

Can you please send a minimal example to work with?

Aditya
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endnotes

[Horacio Suarez]

hello:

I have a problem with endnotes.

I use \placefootnotes at the end of each chapter.

When the last page of a chapter is almost empty, the footnotes are placed at 
the same page, but when the las page of a chapter is almost full, the notes 
jumps to a new page.

Also, I have a \stopcolumns before the notes.

How can I force the notes to keep in the same page?

Thankyou.




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endnotes

[Horacio Suarez]

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hello:

i´m using endnotes at the end of each chapter and I have 2 problems:

1. I want some space between a note and the next one. How can I do that?

2. When the last page of a chapter is half filled o more -or somethig like 
that- the endnotes jumps to a new page, but if the last page of a chapter is 
less than a half filled, then the endnotes keeps in the same page, as I 
want.

Thankyou in advance.






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Endnotes

[F. Miller Maley]

In the book I am working on, I would like to have substantial endnotes,
perhaps 10 to 20 pages of them.  The design I have in mind is to collect
all the endnotes in an appendix (actually an unnumbered backmatter chapter).
It should have separate sections called "Notes for Chapter 1", "Notes for
Chapter 2", or similar.  The note number should reset for each chapter,
and in the endnotes the note number should appear full-size rather than
in a small font.  Finally, for the interactive version of the book, the
endnotes should be coupled to their references in the text.

I can see how to get some of these features in ConTeXt, but not all.
Using \setupfootnotes[location=text,way=bychapter] and \placefootnotes,
I can get all the notes to appear together, but I don't know how to break
them up by chapter or reformat the number (\setupfootnotedefinition
[headstyle=...] wasn't helping?).  Moreover, it looks like the macros want
to collect them up in a giant \vbox, which might not scale too well.

Alternatively, the text block mechanism seems almost tailor-made for
this situation, except for one thing: I would like to couple the note,
which is naturally an enumeration, with the tiny little raised note number
in the text, which does not seem to be naturally an enumeration or
description (because it's in horizontal mode rather than vertical).
Maybe the coupling mechanism is general enough to do this; I don't know.

It wouldn't be overly hard (I hope) to do the coupling myself using ConTeXt's
reference commands, but I wonder if there is a better way.

-- Miller Maley