always the same :-(

always the same :-(

[Hraban]

Hello Hans!

I thought my problems would caused through my perhaps odd TeX installation
on my PPC Linux System, but...

I just installed a new teTeX, newest stable pdfTeX (14g) and newest
ConTeXt beta on a i386-Linux machine.

texexec --make runs only with --alone,
and my book stays at the "old" error:
! Undefined control sequence.
<write> ...{}{formal}{}{\realfolio }{\@@cvset 348
                                                  }

No ideas?

If I can't get this to run this week, I must take alle the text
and set the book with QuarkXPress (and I don't want to!) :-(

Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: always the same :-(

[Hans Hagen]

At 06:49 PM 11/1/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:
>Hello Hans!
>
>I thought my problems would caused through my perhaps odd TeX installation
>on my PPC Linux System, but...
>
>I just installed a new teTeX, newest stable pdfTeX (14g) and newest
>ConTeXt beta on a i386-Linux machine.
>
>texexec --make runs only with --alone,
>and my book stays at the "old" error:
>! Undefined control sequence.
><write> ...{}{formal}{}{\realfolio }{\@@cvset 348

This is very strange, since here I have, in the tuo file, 

\mainreference{}{formal}{}{33}{$\star $}

So, what is the \@@cvset doing there

\defineconversion
  [set 3]
  [\mathematics{\star}, .... 

[i may consider not expanding it, btw, but this is unrelated]

All this points to a problem with a footnote symbol around [formal] and you
have set up footnotes as:

\setupfootnotes [conversion=set 3, way=bypage, rule=off]
                                                  }
>No ideas?

comment the footnote line and see if the problem occurs elsewhere

>If I can't get this to run this week, I must take alle the text

can you send me the *complete* book? 

>and set the book with QuarkXPress (and I don't want to!) :-(

Well, i can run it here if needed. 

Hans
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Re: always the same :-(

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> At 06:49 PM 11/1/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:
> >Hello Hans!
> >
> >I thought my problems would caused through my perhaps odd TeX installation
> >on my PPC Linux System, but...
> >
> >I just installed a new teTeX, newest stable pdfTeX (14g) and newest
> >ConTeXt beta on a i386-Linux machine.
> >
> >texexec --make runs only with --alone,
> >and my book stays at the "old" error:
> >! Undefined control sequence.
> ><write> ...{}{formal}{}{\realfolio }{\@@cvset 348

It might help to realize that the actual control sequence here is
"\@@cvset 348"?
It is unlikely that the conversion "set 348" is actually defined.

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: always the same :-(

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:52 PM 11/2/00 +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>Hans Hagen wrote:
>> 
>> At 06:49 PM 11/1/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:
>> >Hello Hans!
>> >
>> >I thought my problems would caused through my perhaps odd TeX installation
>> >on my PPC Linux System, but...
>> >
>> >I just installed a new teTeX, newest stable pdfTeX (14g) and newest
>> >ConTeXt beta on a i386-Linux machine.
>> >
>> >texexec --make runs only with --alone,
>> >and my book stays at the "old" error:
>> >! Undefined control sequence.
>> ><write> ...{}{formal}{}{\realfolio }{\@@cvset 348
>
>It might help to realize that the actual control sequence here is
>"\@@cvset 348"?
>It is unlikely that the conversion "set 348" is actually defined.

Actually it's [set 3][...] element 48 which is kind of strange, although
... if there are 48 footnotes without any numbering way ... 
maybe \setupfootnotes[way=bypage] helps. 

Hans
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Re: always the same :-(

[Hraban]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> >It might help to realize that the actual control sequence here is
> >"\@@cvset 348"?
> >It is unlikely that the conversion "set 348" is actually defined.
> 
> Actually it's [set 3][...] element 48 which is kind of strange, although
> ... if there are 48 footnotes without any numbering way ...
> maybe \setupfootnotes[way=bypage] helps.

I've way=bypage already. And there are never more than 3 footnotes on a page.
I'll try Berend's hint about ini -> tex.

Further:
I tried to set a \relax after every \input chapter, and it helped a bit:
*Sometimes* it runs through, but that seems to be font related.
I'm trying around with Adobe and URW Palatino (Ghostscript and TeTeX versions)
but know to less... The best I got had "only" ß ("s) set to Ÿ ("Y).
Just now I'm downloading "new" tfms from CTAN -- some were missing in my distrib.

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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mostly fixed! (was: always the same)

[Hraban]

Hraban wrote:
> I'll try Berend's hint about ini -> tex.

Yeah! Thank you!
Now it's possible to --make the formats without --alone

> Just now I'm downloading "new" tfms from CTAN -- some were missing in my distrib.

Ok, that has solved some font problems.

The @cvset 348 error disappears if I comment out the footnote setting.
But I do want to get asterisks and daggers as footnote symbols.
I'll try to define my own set.

Remaining/new problems:
- Suddenly I've to say \useencoding[fde] to resolve "a etc.
- "s = \sz works only, if I add the definition in the "experimental"
part of enc-fde (did you forget that, Hans, or is anything other wrong?).
- Ugly page breaks (widows & orphants); I'll try different tolerance settings.
- The two pages of my "part title" are not counted in page numbering (I
forgot to ask after this yet).
- some more details, that I hope to get fixed myself

Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: mostly fixed! (was: always the same)

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:04 PM 11/4/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:
>Hraban wrote:
>> I'll try Berend's hint about ini -> tex.
>
>Yeah! Thank you!
>Now it's possible to --make the formats without --alone
>
>> Just now I'm downloading "new" tfms from CTAN -- some were missing in my
distrib.
>
>Ok, that has solved some font problems.
>
>The @cvset 348 error disappears if I comment out the footnote setting.
>But I do want to get asterisks and daggers as footnote symbols.
>I'll try to define my own set.
>
>Remaining/new problems:
>- Suddenly I've to say \useencoding[fde] to resolve "a etc.

that's ok, since it's impossible to turn them off, one now has explicitly
to turn it on. 

>- "s = \sz works only, if I add the definition in the "experimental"
>part of enc-fde (did you forget that, Hans, or is anything other wrong?).

that will be solved as soon as tobias cum suis have there definitive
decissions made. 

>- Ugly page breaks (widows & orphants); I'll try different tolerance
settings.

that's why they are there [in etex you can provide arrays of them]

>- The two pages of my "part title" are not counted in page numbering (I
>forgot to ask after this yet).

\setuppagenumbering[way=bytext] % instead of bypart

Hans
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page numbering at parts

[Hraban]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> >- The two pages of my "part title" are not counted in page numbering (I
> >forgot to ask after this yet).
> 
> \setuppagenumbering[way=bytext] % instead of bypart

I had bytext since ever.
You remember the nice part pages with background picture
and subtitle? This two pages (part & empty back) are
not counted, the page numbering "jumps over them". 
(They mustn't show a pagina.)

I just sent a preview of the book to the editors,
but I've to fix much more...

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: page numbering at parts

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:49 AM 11/6/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:
>Hans Hagen wrote:
>> >- The two pages of my "part title" are not counted in page numbering (I
>> >forgot to ask after this yet).
>> 
>> \setuppagenumbering[way=bytext] % instead of bypart
>
>I had bytext since ever.
>You remember the nice part pages with background picture
>and subtitle? This two pages (part & empty back) are
>not counted, the page numbering "jumps over them". 
>(They mustn't show a pagina.)

That's a side effect of makeup. You may try: 

% go to a right page 

\page[right] 

% content 

\noheaderandfooterlines

your graphic 

% goto the next right page 

\page[right]

Hans 
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