From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/12987 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Tim 't Hart" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: CJK support in ConTeXt Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:15:35 +0200 (CEST) Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <31160.2927199148$1061968862@news.gmane.org> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1061968862 25452 80.91.224.253 (27 Aug 2003 07:21:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:21:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Wed Aug 27 09:21:01 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19ruc1-0004Sj-00 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:21:01 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45C110B60; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:20:57 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from serve.wwwroot2.net (serve.wwwroot2.net [216.180.224.154]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBF910AE7 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:15:33 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from thart by serve.wwwroot2.net with local (Exim 4.20) id 19ruWl-0007l7-FW; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 02:15:35 -0500 Original-Received: from 134.221.25.121 ([134.221.25.121]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user tim@t-hart.com) by www.t-hart.com with HTTP; Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:15:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.0 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - serve.wwwroot2.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ntg.nl X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32342 844] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - serve.wwwroot2.net Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk X-Reply-To: tim@t-hart.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:12987 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:12987 Jin-Hwan Cho wrote: >It's time to discuss the topic "CJK support in ConTeXt" in a more >public place. I couldn't agree more! :-) >The current version of ConTeXt supports Chinese only. But the same >mechasism enables Korean too. The remaining language is Japanese. >In some sense, it is possible to support Japanese in the current >subfont mechanism. But several issues (e.g. Japanese kerning system >as explained by Okumura) may occur. Could you explain what these issues are? For the past couple of months I've been busy writing Japanese support for ConTeXt, based on the Chinese module. I'm not an expert in this, so I'm sure the method I used for writing Japanese support is wrong and can be improved. But for my own personal use it has already proven to be quite useable. If anyone else is interested in what I've produced so far, please let me know. I would like to know what the issues with Japanese kerning are. I do not know a lot about Japanese typography and would like to know what the limitations of code based on the Chinese module are. >My suggestion for supporting CJK characters in ConTeXt is to write a >new module using e-Omega. Even though e-Omega does not produce PDF >format directly, there are not much problem with DVIPDFMx. When I first tried to use Japanese with ConTeXt, I first looked at e-Omega. The reason I gave up and tried to adapt the Chinese module was that e-Omega was unstable on my machine. Version 1.23 crashed immediately (got stuck in a loop producing [] characters). I tried 1.15 because I heard that was more stable. I got some Japanese output with this version, but when I tried creating more than a paragraph, it locked as well. But this was all a few months ago. Does anybody know if things with e-Omega have improved recently? Anyway, I would like to see a common CJK module for ConTeXt, where Chinese, Korean and Japanese are based on the same base code. It doesn't matter to me if it's implemented using subfonts or on using e-Omega, as long as it's stable and useable. Therefore, I would like to offer my help in creating CJK support. My best, Tim