From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41824 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alan Stone" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: garden's vs. pragma's minimals Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:39:28 +0200 Message-ID: <326847810806210939v338c1dc2r48601cdb213dcf8@mail.gmail.com> References: <6faad9f00806210831r624fd5bq5daca51264653923@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1734202774==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214066455 25099 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 16:40:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:40:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Jun 21 18:41:40 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KA69g-0003jW-TL for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68211FBD4; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:40:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08099-01; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:40:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ADD1FC14; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:40:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A27F1FC14 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:40:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05037-02-2 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCBB1FBD4 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:39:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id u40so332987ugc.50 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.130.14 with SMTP id c14mr4274773ebd.100.1214066368346; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.136.3 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00806210831r624fd5bq5daca51264653923@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41824 Archived-At: --===============1734202774== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8796_5195690.1214066368383" ------=_Part_8796_5195690.1214066368383 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Mojca. Have a nice weekend, Alan On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Mojca Miklavec < mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Alan Stone wrote: > > Thanks for your extensive comments Aditya. It's (finally) *much* clearer > > now. > > > >> Now you have two options: Either isolate minimal context from the one > >> provided by the distribution, or make them co-exist. Isolating them is > >> easy, the minimals even come with a script "setuptex" which does that. > So, > >> you just source setuptex before running context. If you want minimals > and > >> distribution tex to coexits, things are a bit tricky. You need to > >> understand how the tex distribution works, which is an intangled (for > the > >> want of a better word) mess. > > > > I'll take the isolation option then. > > > > A question about the minimals... > > > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals mentions "The Minimals > are an > > attempt to provide the same functionality as the current Pragma's minimal > > ConTeXt distributions in the zip files." > > > > What's the difference (in provided functionalities) between the > > contextgarden minimals and the pragma ones ? > > The binaries at PRAGMA haven't been updated since August, and you can > only update ConTeXt using "download, unzip" approach, which makes you > download the whole zip (independent of how much has changed), and > doesn't update binaries. With minimals on the garden, only a single > file will be updated in case that a single file has changed (rsync > rules!!!). > > Minimals might have some files (fonts, binaries) missing (but feel > free to request them) + standalone environment missing as well. > > Mojca > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > ------=_Part_8796_5195690.1214066368383 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Mojca.

Have a nice weekend,
Alan

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Alan Stone wrote:
> Thanks for your extensive comments Aditya. It's (finally) *much* clearer
> now.
>
>> Now you have two options: Either isolate minimal context from the one
>> provided by the distribution, or make them co-exist. Isolating them is
>> easy, the minimals even come with a script "setuptex" which does that. So,
>> you just source setuptex before running context. If you want minimals and
>> distribution tex to coexits, things are a bit tricky. You need to
>> understand how the tex distribution works, which is an intangled (for the
>> want of a better word) mess.
>
> I'll take the isolation option then.
>
> A question about the minimals...
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals mentions "The Minimals are an
> attempt to provide the same functionality as the current Pragma's minimal
> ConTeXt distributions in the zip files."
>
> What's the difference (in provided functionalities) between the
> contextgarden minimals and the pragma ones ?

The binaries at PRAGMA haven't been updated since August, and you can
only update ConTeXt using "download, unzip" approach, which makes you
download the whole zip (independent of how much has changed), and
doesn't update binaries. With minimals on the garden, only a single
file will be updated in case that a single file has changed (rsync
rules!!!).

Minimals might have some files (fonts, binaries) missing (but feel
free to request them) + standalone environment missing as well.

Mojca
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maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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