From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41991 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Alan Stone" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: distro info Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:03:18 +0200 Message-ID: <326847810806300003n3da3499ey1e09216ec705d443@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F0FF6A1-CBA4-455D-80A5-785E59607044@di.unito.it> <181B45FF-223C-4CBB-8909-F4C9BB2E0C5B@fiee.net> <653FF68A-0886-4ECA-A87C-36D95138437A@uni-bonn.de> <6faad9f00806141159p59426d2el8095f02c07479d54@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0440823049==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214809526 14132 80.91.229.12 (30 Jun 2008 07:05:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:05:26 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jun 30 09:06:10 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KDDST-0000hf-Cw for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:05:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71FD81FDCD; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:04:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27711-01-4; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:04:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066831FDD2; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:04:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1AD11FDD2 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27709-01-4 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:03:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AF01FBC5 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:03:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so602795ika.2 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.129.10 with SMTP id b10mr3851405ebd.25.1214809398979; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.16.2 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:03:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41991 Archived-At: --===============0440823049== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12441_29402736.1214809398963" ------=_Part_12441_29402736.1214809398963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jesse, > 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, as > you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext? Are those equivalent? You might read the underneath thread from here on, as well as its later posts... http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080620.070341.aca1fbd9.en.html Maybe this short one also... http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080621.153103.9fcfc856.en.html Hope this helps, Alan On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Jesse Alama wrote: > "Mojca Miklavec" writes: > >> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jesse Alama wrote: >>> "Thomas A. Schmitz" writes: >>> >>> The basis for my own comments in this thread do not lie in a preference >>> for graphical tools, but rather for a straightforward way to stay >>> up-to-date with the whole of ConTeXt in a way that ctxtools does not >>> currently provide. A command-line interface for that would be great, >>> and so would a graphical tool. >> >> That's not a general solution, but if you need it for yourself, you >> can put the following to some file and execute it whenever you want: >> >> rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/beta/ >> /path/to/your/texmf/ >> rsync -av rsync:// contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux/bin/ >> /path/to/your/binaries/ >> etc. >> >> There's a limited set of folders that you need to update, and it will >> only update new files, you don't need to update everything. > > Two questions: > > 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, as > you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext? Are those equivalent? > > 2. It looks like the subdirectories that I want are > > common > context > luatex > man > metapost > > if I want to follow only luatex development. (The only subdirectories > that aren't in that list are mswin, which doesn't apply to me, and > pdftex and xetex.) I'd like to just put this on top of my TeXLive > (2007) distribution. Once I copy thse binaries to my TeXLive binary > directory, what's the next step? Do I need to rebuild the ConTeXt > format, for example? > > What I'm looking for is a way to keep up-to-date with ConTeXt and LuaTeX > development; I'd rather not keep a separate installation with all and > only ConTeXt in it, together with a shell script that sets up *only* > ConTeXt. I'm happy to keep up-to-date by overwriting the relevant parts > of my TeXLive distribution with the freshest texmf and binaries. That > way, within a single shell I can use the freshest ConTeXt as well as > LaTeX and pacakges from the TeX Collection. Perhaps I am going against > the intention of the "minimal installation"; but the discussion of how > to get a minimal ConTeXt installation overlaps with the discussion of > how to stay up-to-date. I'm more interested in the latter than the > former. Perhaps the best thing for such a user would be to just track > the TeXLive development tree using cvs or rsync. I'm curious to hear > any suggetions. > > Thanks, > > Jesse > > -- > Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu) ------=_Part_12441_29402736.1214809398963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jesse,

> 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, as
> you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext?  Are those equivalent?

You might read the underneath thread from here on, as well as its later posts...
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080620.070341.aca1fbd9.en.html

Maybe this short one also...
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080621.153103.9fcfc856.en.html


Hope this helps,
Alan


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Jesse Alama <alama@stanford.edu> wrote:
> "Mojca Miklavec" <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jesse Alama wrote:
>>> "Thomas A. Schmitz" writes:
>>>
>>> The basis for my own comments in this thread do not lie in a preference
>>> for graphical tools, but rather for a straightforward way to stay
>>> up-to-date with the whole of ConTeXt in a way that ctxtools does not
>>> currently provide.  A command-line interface for that would be great,
>>> and so would a graphical tool.
>>
>> That's not a general solution, but if you need it for yourself, you
>> can put the following to some file and execute it whenever you want:
>>
>> rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/beta/
>> /path/to/your/texmf/
>> rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux/bin/
>> /path/to/your/binaries/
>> etc.
>>
>> There's a limited set of folders that you need to update, and it will
>> only update new files, you don't need to update everything.
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, as
> you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext?  Are those equivalent?
>
> 2. It looks like the subdirectories that I want are
>
>  common
>  context
>  luatex
>  man
>  metapost
>
> if I want to follow only luatex development.  (The only subdirectories
> that aren't in that list are mswin, which doesn't apply to me, and
> pdftex and xetex.)  I'd like to just put this on top of my TeXLive
> (2007) distribution.  Once I copy thse binaries to my TeXLive binary
> directory, what's the next step?  Do I need to rebuild the ConTeXt
> format, for example?
>
> What I'm looking for is a way to keep up-to-date with ConTeXt and LuaTeX
> development; I'd rather not keep a separate installation with all and
> only ConTeXt in it, together with a shell script that sets up *only*
> ConTeXt.  I'm happy to keep up-to-date by overwriting the relevant parts
> of my TeXLive distribution with the freshest texmf and binaries.  That
> way, within a single shell I can use the freshest ConTeXt as well as
> LaTeX and pacakges from the TeX Collection.  Perhaps I am going against
> the intention of the "minimal installation"; but the discussion of how
> to get a minimal ConTeXt installation overlaps with the discussion of
> how to stay up-to-date.  I'm more interested in the latter than the
> former.  Perhaps the best thing for such a user would be to just track
> the TeXLive development tree using cvs or rsync.  I'm curious to hear
> any suggetions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jesse
>
> --
> Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu)
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