goto(box) and setuplist questions

goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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Hi,

(1) \goto(box)

(1a) What's the difference between

- goto and gotobox ?

(1b) With \goto{Table of Contents}[contents]
each word separately is interactive, not the whole word.
How do you make so ?

(3) \setuplist

(3a) what is

- depth ?

- maxwidth ?

(3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt

How to set the right margin to xpt ?

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Hans Hagen]

Alan Stone wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (1) \goto(box)
> 
> (1a) What's the difference between
> 
> - goto and gotobox ?
> 
> (1b) With \goto{Table of Contents}[contents]
> each word separately is interactive, not the whole word.
> How do you make so ?

gotobox does not split, just try both commands on a combination of 
words; also, gotobox does not check if the area is comfortable clickable 
(so you might need to add struts)

(in a lists there are optins like interaction-all which makes the whole 
toc entry clockable)

> (3) \setuplist
> 
> (3a) what is
> 
> - depth ?

detail .. sometimes you need to manipulat ethe depth of lines; seldom 
needed

> - maxwidth ?

just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines

this is a very long entry
this is a very ...

> (3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt
> 
> How to set the right margin to xpt ?

depends, sometimes setting the width works ok, otherwise wrap the whole 
in narrower


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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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>
> > (3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt
> >
> > How to set the right margin to xpt ?
>
> depends, sometimes setting the width works ok, otherwise wrap the whole
> in narrower


I'm out of inspiration...

\setupnarrower[left=.6pt,right=.6pt]

\startinteractionmenu[right]
% \startnarrower           % sets a wide right margin, whatever \setnarrower
left/right settings
    \placecontent[
%        criterium=all,
        criterium=chapter,
        alternative=b,
        style=\tfx,
%        offset=5pt,                      % no effect at all
%        margin=5pt,                    % only sets left margin
%        width=.90\rightedge,        % no effect at all
%    before=\startnarrower,         % no effect at all
%    after=\stopnarrower,            % no effect at all
        interaction=all]
% \stopnarrower
\stopinteractionmenu

% \startnarrower                       % blank menu
\setupinteractionmenu[right][
%    offset=5pt,                          % no effect at all
%       width=.95\rightedge,         % no effect at all
%    before=\startnarrower,          % sets a wide right margin,
%    after=\stopnarrower,             % whatever \setnarrower left/right
settings
    distance=overlay]
% \stopnarrower

Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > (3b) margin=xpt sets the left margin to xpt
>> >
>> > How to set the right margin to xpt ?
>>
>> depends, sometimes setting the width works ok, otherwise wrap the whole
>> in narrower
>
> I'm out of inspiration...
>
> \setupnarrower[left=.6pt,right=.6pt]
>
> \startinteractionmenu[right]
> % \startnarrower           % sets a wide right margin, whatever \setnarrower
> left/right settings
>     \placecontent[
> %        criterium=all,
>         criterium=chapter,
>         alternative=b,
>         style=\tfx,
> %        offset=5pt,                      % no effect at all
> %        margin=5pt,                    % only sets left margin
> %        width=.90\rightedge,        % no effect at all
> %    before=\startnarrower,         % no effect at all
> %    after=\stopnarrower,            % no effect at all
>         interaction=all]
> % \stopnarrower
> \stopinteractionmenu
>
> % \startnarrower                       % blank menu
> \setupinteractionmenu[right][
> %    offset=5pt,                          % no effect at all
> %       width=.95\rightedge,         % no effect at all
> %    before=\startnarrower,          % sets a wide right margin,
> %    after=\stopnarrower,             % whatever \setnarrower left/right
> settings
>     distance=overlay]
> % \stopnarrower

Make a real example.

Wolfgang
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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I'm looking to have in the menu...

- chapter title centered
- section title left aligned
- for long chapter/section titles split over more than 1line,
vertical space between these chapter/section lines to be
smaller
- left and right margin of (x)pt

\setuppapersize[S6][S6]

\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]

%\showframe

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]

\setuplayout
  [width=360pt,
   headerheight=7pt,
   footerheight=7pt,
   margin=0pt,
   backspace=25pt,
   topheight=7pt,
   bottomheight=7pt,
   rightedgedistance=20pt,
   rightedge=180pt]

\setuplist[chapter,section][
    criterium=all,
    aligntitle=yes,
    interaction=all]

\setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
\setuphead[section][number=no]

\setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]

\setupinteraction[
    state=start,
    menu=on,
    page=yes]

\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
%\setupnarrower[left=5pt,right=5pt]

\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]

\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
    \placecontent[
        criterium=all,
        alternative=b,
%        distance=2pt,                                % no effect
       style=\tfx,                                          % \tfxx is too
small to read
%        offset=5pt,                                    % no effect
%        margin=5pt,                                  % only sets left
margin
%        width=.9\rightedgewidth,              % chapter title gets whacked
out of rightedge
%        maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth,       % no effect
        interaction=all,
    before=\startnarrower,                     % sets a default left and
right margin, i.e. independent
    after=\stopnarrower]                        % of left/right setting
%        before=,
%        after=]
\stopinteractionmenu

\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]

\setupinteractionmenu[right][
%    offset=5pt,                                        % no effect
%        width=.9\rightedgewidth,               % no effect
%        maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth,           % no effect
%    before=\startnarrower,                          % no effect
%    after=\stopnarrower,                            % no effect
    distance=overlay]

\starttext
    \chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
    \section{This Long Section Title A}
    \input knuth
    \section{This Long Section Title B}
    \input zapf
\stoptext

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to have in the menu...
>
> - chapter title centered
> - section title left aligned
> - for long chapter/section titles split over more than 1line,
> vertical space between these chapter/section lines to be
> smaller
> - left and right margin of (x)pt
>
> \setuppapersize[S6][S6]
>
> \setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
>
> %\showframe
>
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=singlesided]
>
> \setuplayout
>   [width=360pt,
>    headerheight=7pt,
>    footerheight=7pt,
>    margin=0pt,
>    backspace=25pt,
>    topheight=7pt,
>    bottomheight=7pt,
>    rightedgedistance=20pt,
>    rightedge=180pt]
>
> \setuplist[chapter,section][
>     criterium=all,
>     aligntitle=yes,
>     interaction=all]
>
> \setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
> \setuphead[section][number=no]
>
> \setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]
>
> \setupinteraction[
>     state=start,
>     menu=on,
>     page=yes]
>
> \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
> %\setupnarrower[left=5pt,right=5pt]
>
> \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
>
> \startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
>     \placecontent[
>         criterium=all,
>         alternative=b,
> %        distance=2pt,                                % no effect
>        style=\tfx,                                          % \tfxx is too
> small to read
> %        offset=5pt,                                    % no effect
> %        margin=5pt,                                  % only sets left
> margin
> %        width=.9\rightedgewidth,              % chapter title gets whacked
> out of rightedge
> %        maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth,       % no effect
>         interaction=all,
>     before=\startnarrower,                     % sets a default left and
> right margin, i.e. independent
>     after=\stopnarrower]                        % of left/right setting
> %        before=,
> %        after=]
> \stopinteractionmenu
>
> \setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]
>
> \setupinteractionmenu[right][
> %    offset=5pt,                                        % no effect
> %        width=.9\rightedgewidth,               % no effect
> %        maxwidth=.9\rightedgewidth,           % no effect
> %    before=\startnarrower,                          % no effect
> %    after=\stopnarrower,                            % no effect
>     distance=overlay]
>
> \starttext
>     \chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
>     \section{This Long Section Title A}
>     \input knuth
>     \section{This Long Section Title B}
>     \input zapf
> \stoptext

Slightly modfied:

\setuppapersize[S6][S6]

\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]

\setuplayout
  [width=360pt,
   headerheight=7pt,
   footerheight=7pt,
   margin=0pt,
   backspace=25pt,
   topheight=7pt,
   bottomheight=7pt,
   rightedgedistance=20pt,
   rightedge=180pt]

\setuplist[chapter,section][aligntitle=yes,criterium=all]
\setuplist[chapter][align=middle]

\setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
\setuphead[section][number=no]

\setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]

\setupinteraction[
    state=start,
    menu=on,
    page=yes]

\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]

\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]

\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
  \placecontent[
     criterium=all,
     alternative=b,
     style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
     interaction=all,
     before={\blank[small]\startnarrower},
     after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]},
    ]
\stopinteractionmenu

\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]

\setupinteractionmenu[right][distance=overlay]

\starttext
    \chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
    \section{This Long Section Title A}
    \input knuth
    \section{This Long Section Title B}
    \input zapf
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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Thanks for these finishing touches Wolfgang.

I'm troubled by the following though...

- whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for
\setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
the left and right margin remain the same

- when setting for example
\setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em]
( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect
upon the distance between the chapter number
and the chapter title

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.07.10 08:40 MKIV  fmt: 2008.7.10  int: english/english

Alan

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> Slightly modfied:
>
> \setuppapersize[S6][S6]
>
> \setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
>
> \setuplayout
>  [width=360pt,
>   headerheight=7pt,
>   footerheight=7pt,
>   margin=0pt,
>   backspace=25pt,
>   topheight=7pt,
>   bottomheight=7pt,
>   rightedgedistance=20pt,
>   rightedge=180pt]
>
> \setuplist[chapter,section][aligntitle=yes,criterium=all]
> \setuplist[chapter][align=middle]
>
> \setuphead[chapter][number=yes]
> \setuphead[section][number=no]
>
> \setupbackgrounds[text][rightedge][frame=on]
>
> \setupinteraction[
>    state=start,
>    menu=on,
>    page=yes]
>
> \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
>
> \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
>
> \startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
>  \placecontent[
>     criterium=all,
>     alternative=b,
>      style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>     interaction=all,
>     before={\blank[small]\startnarrower},
>     after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]},
>     ]
> \stopinteractionmenu
>
> \setupinteractionmenu[myMenu][state=start]
>
> \setupinteractionmenu[right][distance=overlay]
>
> \starttext
>    \chapter{This Long Chapter Title}
>    \section{This Long Section Title A}
>    \input knuth
>    \section{This Long Section Title B}
>    \input zapf
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for these finishing touches Wolfgang.
>
> I'm troubled by the following though...
>
> - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for
> \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
> the left and right margin remain the same

Use \startnarrower[left,right].

> - when setting for example
> \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em]
> ( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect
> upon the distance between the chapter number
> and the chapter title

\setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=0pt,width=1em]

Wolfgang
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for
> > \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
> > the left and right margin remain the same
>
> Use \startnarrower[left,right].


Used it, still doesn't work.

> - when setting for example
> > \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em]
> > ( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect
> > upon the distance between the chapter number
> > and the chapter title
>
> \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=0pt,width=1em]


This works.

What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood
from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x>0)pt.

Best,
Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > - whatever the dimension (number and/or unit) I set for
>> > \setupnarrower[left=1pt,right=1pt]
>> > the left and right margin remain the same
>>
>> Use \startnarrower[left,right].
>
> Used it, still doesn't work.

It works.

\setupnarrower[left=1em,right=1em]

\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
 \placecontent[
    criterium=all,
    alternative=b,
    style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
    interaction=all,
    before={\blank[small]\startnarrower[left,right]},
    after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]},
   ]
\stopinteractionmenu

>> > - when setting for example
>> > \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=1em]
>> > ( or whatever else for distance ) it has no effect
>> > upon the distance between the chapter number
>> > and the chapter title
>>
>> \setuplist[chapter][align=middle,distance=0pt,width=1em]
>
> This works.
>
> What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood
> from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x>0)pt.

'width' is the width of the box for the number and 'distance' is the
distance between the numberbox and the text.

The result is something like:

\hbox to 1em{1\hfil}\hskip 0pt{chapter title ...}
^^                  ^^
width               distance

Wolfgang
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> It works.


Ahaa! Now it does. I misunderstood. Thanks.

> What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood
> > from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x>0)pt.
>
> 'width' is the width of the box for the number and 'distance' is the
> distance between the numberbox and the text.


Indeed, so normally you should be setting distance=(x>0)pt instead of
the width trickery. Hence my question.


> The result is something like:
>
> \hbox to 1em{1\hfil}\hskip 0pt{chapter title ...}
> ^^                  ^^
> width               distance


Sorry, TeX is currently still like Klingon to me. Thanks anyway.

Hans wrote:
>> - maxwidth ?
>
>just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
>
>this is a very long entry
>this is a very ...

Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?

Like...

(number) This long long
chapter title                       (pagenumber)

vs.

(number) This long
long chapter title                (pagenumber)

Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which didn't
work.
It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
manual pg 150 ) ?

Best,
Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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correction...

Using the brute force tactic I tried setting textwidth which didn't work.
It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
manual pg 150 ) ?

Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> correction...
>
> Using the brute force tactic I tried setting textwidth which didn't work.

textwidth for what and why, you're in the right edge

> It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
> manual pg 150 ) ?

\define[1]\SectionList
  {\framed{#1}}

\setuplist[section][textcommand=\SectionList]

\starttext
\placelist[section]
\section{Section}
\stoptext

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> textwidth for what and why, you're in the right edge


Something undocumented.  ;O)


> > It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
> > manual pg 150 ) ?
>
> \define[1]\SectionList
>  {\framed{#1}}
>
> \setuplist[section][textcommand=\SectionList]
>
> \starttext
> \placelist[section]
> \section{Section}
> \stoptext
>

Vielen dank.

Best,
Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It works.
>
> Ahaa! Now it does. I misunderstood. Thanks.
>
>> > What's the reason for this Wolfgang ? From what I understood
>> > from the main manual, it logically should be distance=(x>0)pt.
>>
>> 'width' is the width of the box for the number and 'distance' is the
>> distance between the numberbox and the text.
>
> Indeed, so normally you should be setting distance=(x>0)pt instead of
> the width trickery. Hence my question.

Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter because
you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers
you need a postive value for distance (2).

(1) Left aligned number:

\starttext
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR\bTD[width=1cm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
\bTR\bTD[width=5mm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

(2) Right aligned number:

\starttext
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR\bTD[width=1cm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
\bTR\bTD[width=5mm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

>> The result is something like:
>>
>> \hbox to 1em{1\hfil}\hskip 0pt{chapter title ...}
>> ^^                  ^^
>> width               distance
>
> Sorry, TeX is currently still like Klingon to me. Thanks anyway.

But TeX is turing complete ;-)

> Hans wrote:
>>> - maxwidth ?
>>
>>just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
>>
>>this is a very long entry
>>this is a very ...
>
> Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
> allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
>
> Like...
>
> (number) This long long
> chapter title                       (pagenumber)
>
> vs.
>
> (number) This long
> long chapter title                (pagenumber)
>
> Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which didn't
> work.
> It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
> manual pg 150 ) ?

The effect for maxwidth (3cm in my example) is this:

\starttext
\limitatetext {This long long chapter title} {3cm} {\unknown}
\stoptext

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter because
> you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers
> you need a postive value for distance (2).
>
> (1) Left aligned number:
>
> \starttext
> \bTABLE[frame=off]
> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
>
> (2) Right aligned number:
>
> \starttext
> \bTABLE[frame=off]
> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext


I'm impressed...

So you really have an MBA in Klingon!  :O)

> Hans wrote:
> >>> - maxwidth ?
> >>
> >>just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
> >>
> >>this is a very long entry
> >>this is a very ...
> >
> > Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
> > allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
> >
> > Like...
> >
> > (number) This long long
> > chapter title                       (pagenumber)
> >
> > vs.
> >
> > (number) This long
> > long chapter title                (pagenumber)
> >
> > Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which
> didn't
> > work.
> > It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
> > manual pg 150 ) ?
>
> The effect for maxwidth (3cm in my example) is this:
>
> \starttext
> \limitatetext {This long long chapter title} {3cm} {\unknown}
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>

I just tried with

style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[(x)pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]}

and several values for (x) in

\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
 \placecontent[
    criterium=all,
    alternative=b,
%    style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},

style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[150pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
    interaction=all,
    before={\blank[small]\startnarrower[left,right]},
    after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]}]
\stopinteractionmenu

but that generates a compile error. Grrr...

Best,
Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter
>> because
>> you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers
>> you need a postive value for distance (2).
>>
>> (1) Left aligned number:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \bTABLE[frame=off]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \stoptext
>>
>> (2) Right aligned number:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \bTABLE[frame=off]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \stoptext
>
> I'm impressed...
>
> So you really have an MBA in Klingon!  :O)
>
>> > Hans wrote:
>> >>> - maxwidth ?
>> >>
>> >>just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
>> >>
>> >>this is a very long entry
>> >>this is a very ...
>> >
>> > Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
>> > allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
>> >
>> > Like...
>> >
>> > (number) This long long
>> > chapter title                       (pagenumber)
>> >
>> > vs.
>> >
>> > (number) This long
>> > long chapter title                (pagenumber)
>> >
>> > Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which
>> > didn't
>> > work.
>> > It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
>> > manual pg 150 ) ?
>>
>> The effect for maxwidth (3cm in my example) is this:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \limitatetext {This long long chapter title} {3cm} {\unknown}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> I just tried with
>
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[(x)pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]}

\starttext

\framed{text}

\thinrule

\setuplinewidth[small]

\framed{text}

\thinrule

\setuplinewidth[1cm]

\framed{text}

\thinrule

\stoptext

> and several values for (x) in
>
> \startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
>  \placecontent[
>     criterium=all,
>     alternative=b,
> %    style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[150pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>     interaction=all,
>     before={\blank[small]\startnarrower[left,right]},
>     after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]}]
> \stopinteractionmenu
>
> but that generates a compile error. Grrr...


You could try


style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize.8\hsize\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},

or

style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize150pt\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},

The better way is to define you own list alternative.

\define[3]\ChapterList
  {\hbox
     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
      \hfil#3}}

\setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on the situation, for left aligned numbers it didn't matter
>> because
>> you can't see where the space comes from (1) but for right aligned numbers
>> you need a postive value for distance (2).
>>
>> (1) Left aligned number:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \bTABLE[frame=off]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \stoptext
>>
>> (2) Right aligned number:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \bTABLE[frame=off]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=1cm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \bTABLE[frame=off,distance=5mm]
>> \bTR\bTD[width=5mm,align=flushright] 1 \eTD\bTD header \eTD\eTR
>> \eTABLE
>> \stoptext
>
> I'm impressed...
>
> So you really have an MBA in Klingon!  :O)
>
>> > Hans wrote:
>> >>> - maxwidth ?
>> >>
>> >>just try it on long entries .. it prevents too long lines
>> >>
>> >>this is a very long entry
>> >>this is a very ...
>> >
>> > Ok I see. Now, in \placecontent or \setuplist, which parameter
>> > allows to influence where long lines are cut off in two (or more) ?
>> >
>> > Like...
>> >
>> > (number) This long long
>> > chapter title                       (pagenumber)
>> >
>> > vs.
>> >
>> > (number) This long
>> > long chapter title                (pagenumber)
>> >
>> > Using the brute force tactic I tried setting width and textwith which
>> > didn't
>> > work.
>> > It could be textcommand. If so what does \command#1 mean ( see main
>> > manual pg 150 ) ?
>>
>> The effect for maxwidth (3cm in my example) is this:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \limitatetext {This long long chapter title} {3cm} {\unknown}
>> \stoptext
>>
> I just tried with
>
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[(x)pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]}
>
> and several values for (x) in
>
> \startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
>  \placecontent[
>     criterium=all,
>     alternative=b,
> %    style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\setuplinewidth[150pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>     interaction=all,
>     before={\blank[small]\startnarrower[left,right]},
>     after={\stopnarrower\blank[medium]}]
> \stopinteractionmenu
>
> but that generates a compile error. Grrr...

Was the empty line also in your source, if your answer is yes remove it.

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Was the empty line also in your source, if your answer is yes remove it.


No, it wasn't in my sauce, correction: source.

Although...

My source sometimes looks like a messed up sauce.  :O)

Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> \starttext
>
> \framed{text}
>
> \thinrule
>
> \setuplinewidth[small]
>
> \framed{text}
>
> \thinrule
>
> \setuplinewidth[1cm]
>
> \framed{text}
>
> \thinrule
>
> \stoptext


I don't see the output difference between

\framed{text}

\thinrule

\setuplinewidth[small]
\framed{text}

\thinrule

\setuplinewidth[big]
\framed{text}

while

\setuplinewidth[1cm]
\framed{text}

is "fascinating".

You could try
>
>
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize.8\hsize\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>
> or
>
>
> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize150pt\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},


These work, however not entirely to my satisfaction because then the right
margin setting is modified due to text/head and pagenumber being grouped (
re: drawing, manual pg 150 ).


> The better way is to define you own list alternative.
>
> \define[3]\ChapterList
>  {\hbox
>     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
>      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
>      \hfil#3}}
>
> \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]


I'll try that...

Alan

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Alan Stone]

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>
> The better way is to define you own list alternative.
>>
>> \define[3]\ChapterList
>>  {\hbox
>>     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
>>      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
>>      \hfil#3}}
>>
>> \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
>
>
> I'll try that...
>

#1, #2, #3 being parameters which can be passed to \ChapterList, aka
\ChapterList[#1,#2,#3]. Is that correct ?

Best,
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \framed{text}
>>
>> \thinrule
>>
>> \setuplinewidth[small]
>>
>> \framed{text}
>>
>> \thinrule
>>
>> \setuplinewidth[1cm]
>>
>> \framed{text}
>>
>> \thinrule
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> I don't see the output difference between

small = 0.2pt
medium = 0.4pt (TeX default value and also ConTeXt default)
big = 0.6pt

no big difference on the screen with 100% magnification but you can zoom
into the page and you see the difference.

> \framed{text}
>
> \thinrule
>
> \setuplinewidth[small]
> \framed{text}
>
> \thinrule
>
> \setuplinewidth[big]
> \framed{text}
>
> while
>
> \setuplinewidth[1cm]
> \framed{text}
>
> is "fascinating".
>
>> You could try
>>
>>
>> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize.8\hsize\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>>
>> or
>>
>>
>> style={\switchtobodyfont[small]\hsize150pt\relax\setupinterlinespace[line=2.4ex]},
>
> These work, however not entirely to my satisfaction because then the right
> margin setting is modified due to text/head and pagenumber being grouped (
> re: drawing, manual pg 150 ).

This is why you could define your own alternatives.

>> The better way is to define you own list alternative.
>>
>> \define[3]\ChapterList
>>  {\hbox
>>     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
>>      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
>>      \hfil#3}}
>>
>> \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
>
> I'll try that...

Wolfgang
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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The better way is to define you own list alternative.
>>>
>>> \define[3]\ChapterList
>>>  {\hbox
>>>     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
>>>      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
>>>      \hfil#3}}
>>>
>>> \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
>>
>> I'll try that...
>
> #1, #2, #3 being parameters which can be passed to \ChapterList, aka
> \ChapterList[#1,#2,#3]. Is that correct ?

No, \define[3]\ChapterList == \def\ChapterList#1#2#3.

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Re: goto(box) and setuplist questions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Alan Stone
<software.list.1es9s@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The better way is to define you own list alternative.
>>>
>>> \define[3]\ChapterList
>>>  {\hbox
>>>     {\hbox to .5em{#1}\hskip.5em
>>>      \vtop{\hsize150pt\relax#2}%
>>>      \hfil#3}}
>>>
>>> \setuplist[chapter][alternative=command,command=\ChapterList]
>>
>> I'll try that...
>
> #1, #2, #3 being parameters which can be passed to \ChapterList, aka
> \ChapterList[#1,#2,#3]. Is that correct ?

Each lis entry has three argument:

#1: The section number
#2: The header text
#3: The page number

To define your own format for the list entry in the ToC you need a new
command with three argument like \def\MyCommand#1#2#3 and use it
in \setuplist with \setuplist[...][command=\MyCommand].

Wolfgang
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