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From: jbf <roma83537@gmail.com>
To: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: register for biblical citations
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 19:47:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3277a030-1314-76f7-b6c2-4054cbd51051@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9fbe027-c7b4-e077-b414-48ccf33b15c5@xs4all.nl>

Hans, thanks for your ingenious solution but there is still a way to go 
I suspect!

I implemented (copy-paste) precisely the solution offered and I get an 
index but with some strange results ! Notice that in my previous own 
solution (but only as far as 26 books!) I at least got an index in the 
order of the biblical books, but using the luacode you offered, I get a 
seemingly random result (see below).

I extended your example by a few books. so:

\startluacode
sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
     method  = interfaces.variables.before,
     replacements = {
         { "Gen",  string.char(1) },
         { "Ex",   string.char(2) },
         { "Lev",  string.char(3) },
         { "Deut", string.char(4) },
         { "Lam",  string.char(5) },
         { "Dan",  string.char(6) },
         { "Joel",  string.char(7) },
         { "Ps",  string.char(8) },
         { "Prov",  string.char(9) },
         { "Sir",  string.char(10) },
         { "Mt",  string.char(11) },
         { "Mk",  string.char(12) },

     },
}
\stopluacode

But the result I get (just showing you a dozen or so, and you will see 
that Gen doesn't even turn up in this list ... it does, but much later!):

Mk 2:19-20 with parallels (PES) 146
Mt 3:8-10 (PES) 135
Prov 3:11-12 (PES) 139, 172
Sir 4:17-18 (PES) 139
Mt 5:5 (PES) 146
Mt 5:6 (MAC) 123
Mt 5:16 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (MAC) 121
Mt 6:1-6, 16-18 (PES) 145
Mt 7:13-14 (PES) 146
Sir 10:9 (PES) 142
Mt 11:12 (PRO) 160
Mt 12:34 (MAC) 124, 137
Mt 12:36 (PES) 134
Mk 12:41-44 (MAC) 122
Sir 17:27 (PES) 142

I have no idea why this is happening. I changed nothing of what you gave 
me and removed anything I had previously. If you need an example of how 
\bibcit is being used in the text, just in case it helps (but I doubt 
it), here is one:

The widow’s mite pleased God because of her good intention, rather than 
the heap of money that the pharisees, urged on by self-love, threw into 
the treasury box (cf.  \bibcit{Mk 12:41-44 (MAC)}Mk 12:41-44).

So, not sure where to go from here. Could I perhaps return to my earlier 
question, which indicated that by using the keyword approach [a] [b] and 
so on, as far as [z] I was at least getting a passable result, but how 
could I continue past [z]? Could I have used [1], [2] etc which would 
allows me to get as far as 66 (if I were to need every biblical book)?

Julian

On 16/4/21 5:24 pm, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 4/15/2021 11:28 AM, jbf wrote:
>> My simple MWE:
>>
>> \defineregister[bibcit]
>> \setupregister[bibcit][%
>> indicator=no,
>> before=]
>>
>> text... \bibcit[a]{Gen 3:6 (MAC) }Gen 3:6....
>>
>> (and so one for each Genesis reference, then moving on to Leviticus 
>> with [b] etc.)
>>
>>
>> In other words, I have used the key option [] using the alphabet to 
>> change the order, with Genesis as [a], Exodus [b], Leviticus [c], and 
>> so on.
>>
>> Problem 1: there are 26 letters in the English alphabet. There are 
>> many more biblical books (OT and NT) than 26, so what do I do when I 
>> reach z?
>>
>> Problem 2: the (MAC) would not normally be required in any biblical 
>> citation, but in my case it is, as well as (PER), (PRO) and several 
>> other references. In other words, these indicate where, in  a set of 
>> documents, the particular citations are to be found. But I think they 
>> may affect the order of citations, so, for example, I get the 
>> following results for the first four books of the Bible:
>>
>> Gen 3:6 (MAC)            120
>> Gen 4:2-8 (MAC)         123
>> Gen 39:6-20 (MAG)     127
>> Gen 17:1 (PES)           137
>> Gen 18:27 (PES)         140
>> Gen 28:10-12 (PES)    141
>> Ex 20:12 (MAG)          129
>> Lev 6:5-6 (PES)           136
>> Deut 6:5 (PES)            145
>> Lam 3:27 (MAG)          129
>>
>> Notice that Gen 39:6-20 is out of order in terms of chapters and 
>> verses. It should come after Gen 28:10-12 (PES) but I do not know how 
>> to control that order. It may be that (MAG), which comes after (MAC) 
>> in alphabetical terms, is controlling the order, rather than chapter 
>> and verse which I really want to control the order.
>>
>> I realise this is complicated, but I'm sure ConTeXt is up to it. I've 
>> got the basics right for getting at least 26 books in some sort of 
>> order, but after that??
> cheat (crossed fingers that you have enough entries) :
>
> \startluacode
> sorters.definitions["biblical"] = {
>     method  = interfaces.variables.before,
>     replacements = {
>         { "Gen",  string.char(1) },
>         { "Ex",   string.char(2) },
>         { "Lev",  string.char(3) },
>         { "Deut", string.char(4) },
>         { "Lam",  string.char(5) },
>     },
> }
> \stopluacode
>
> \defineregister[bibcit] \setupregister[bibcit][language=biblical,before=]
>
> \starttext
>
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 3:6}
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 4:2-8}
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 39:6-20}
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 17:1}
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 18:27}
> test ... \bibcit{Gen 28:10-12}
> test ... \bibcit{Ex 20:12}
> test ... \bibcit{Lev 6:5-6}
> test ... \bibcit{Deut 6:5}
> test ... \bibcit{Lam 3:27}
>
> \blank[3*big] \placeregister[bibcit]
>
> \stoptext
>
> but is shows that it's not impossible to come up with a solution
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-16  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-14 21:16 jbf
2021-04-15  8:08 ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-15  9:28   ` jbf
2021-04-16  7:24     ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-16  9:47       ` jbf [this message]
2021-04-16 10:06         ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-16 10:22           ` jbf
2021-04-16 10:57             ` r.ermers
2021-04-16 22:33               ` jbf
2021-04-16 13:08             ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-16 22:39               ` jbf
2021-04-17  5:04               ` jbf
2021-04-17  7:10                 ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-16 10:54         ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2021-04-16 22:37           ` jbf

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