* Re: Natural tables introduces spaces in \type
@ 2014-11-07 13:44 Christoph Reller
2014-11-10 7:18 ` Keith Schultz
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-07 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:11:09 +0100
Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr> wrote
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:15:36 +0100
> Christoph Reller <christoph.reller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS
>
> Not everyone uses NTFS.
Another reason for not making a "file-name cleaner" as such, but rather
restricting the characters to ascii.
Regards,
Christoph
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* Re: Natural tables introduces spaces in \type
2014-11-07 13:44 Natural tables introduces spaces in \type Christoph Reller
@ 2014-11-10 7:18 ` Keith Schultz
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From: Keith Schultz @ 2014-11-10 7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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hello all,
i do not have nfts, but there are assume users that do not live in western countries
and use characters that are not in ascii!!
just a thought.
regards
Keith.
> Am 07.11.2014 um 14:44 schrieb Christoph Reller <christoph.reller@gmail.com>:
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 09:11:09 +0100
> Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr <mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>> wrote
> > On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:15:36 +0100
> > Christoph Reller <christoph.reller@gmail.com <mailto:christoph.reller@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS
> >
> > Not everyone uses NTFS.
>
> Another reason for not making a "file-name cleaner" as such, but rather restricting the characters to ascii.
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* Re: Natural tables introduces spaces in \type
@ 2014-11-19 21:43 Christoph Reller
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-19 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/5/2014 21:50 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > > Thank you very much Hans!
> > >
> > > Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
> > > front of the full stop:
> > >
> > > \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
> > > \starttext
> > > \bTABLE
> > > \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
> > > \eTABLE
> > > \stoptext
> >
> > because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
> >
> > > If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
> >
> > i'll add the . to the filter criteria
>
> Thank you for the explanation. I am not sure if it is a wise idea to add
> only "." (the full stop). I tried the following characters, and they all
> are preceded by a space:
>
> . - _ # % , ; @ !
>
> Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
> C:\Path_to-my\file.ext. The above characters are all valid file system
> characters. Is there a better solution? Or are you willing to add all
the
> above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?
For anybody interested in this: I have decided to resort to
\hyphenatedurl{...}. This means that I have to escape \ as \\, # as \# and
% as \letterpercent. Let me know if you have a better solution.
Christoph
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@ 2014-11-06 15:15 Christoph Reller
2014-11-07 8:11 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-06 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/6/2014 9:58 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> we could have a specific filename cleaner but of course there will be
> users who have paths that have spaces after the \ ... okay, we could
> just not support evil paths like that
>
> Hans
A rigorous filename cleaner would have to treat a huge number of possible
Unicodes. This is overkill. I believe the best would be to have a cleaner
for all ascii "symbols". That would fit most purposes of writing file names
and URIs:
!#"$%&'*()+,-./:;<=>?@[\]^_`{|}~
Of the above characters the following are disallowed on NTFS:
"*/:<>?|
Still I think they should be included in the cleaner. If % or # pose
problems then they may be omitted.
With the current "absolute"-cleaner, a space after \ is preserved
correctly, so I don't understand your comment:
\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]\starttext
\bTABLE\bTR\bTD \ctype{\a\ b} \eTD\eTR\eTABLE\stoptext
I would be glad if you could implement such a "ascii-symbol"-cleaner.
Thanks,
Christoph
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@ 2014-11-05 20:50 Christoph Reller
2014-11-06 8:58 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-05 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > Thank you very much Hans!
> >
> > Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
> > front of the full stop:
> >
> > \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
> > \starttext
> > \bTABLE
> > \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
> > \eTABLE
> > \stoptext
>
> because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
>
> > If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
>
> i'll add the . to the filter criteria
Thank you for the explanation. I am not sure if it is a wise idea to add
only "." (the full stop). I tried the following characters, and they all
are preceded by a space:
. - _ # % , ; @ !
Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
C:\Path_to-my\file.ext. The above characters are all valid file system
characters. Is there a better solution? Or are you willing to add all the
above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Christoph
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2014-11-05 20:50 Christoph Reller
@ 2014-11-06 8:58 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-11-06 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/5/2014 9:50 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> On 11/5/2014 10:28 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > > Thank you very much Hans!
> > >
> > > Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
> > > front of the full stop:
> > >
> > > \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
> > > \starttext
> > > \bTABLE
> > > \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
> > > \eTABLE
> > > \stoptext
> >
> > because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
> >
> > > If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
> >
> > i'll add the . to the filter criteria
>
> Thank you for the explanation. I am not sure if it is a wise idea to
> add only "." (the full stop). I tried the following characters, and
> they all are preceded by a space:
>
> . - _ # % , ; @ !
>
> Basically, what I want is to write a file system path name such as
> C:\Path_to-my\file.ext. The above characters are all valid file system
> characters. Is there a better solution? Or are you willing to add all
> the above (maybe except for # and %) to the absolute cleaner?
we could have a specific filename cleaner but of course there will be
users who have paths that have spaces after the \ ... okay, we could
just not support evil paths like that
Hans
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* Re: Natural tables introduces spaces in \type
@ 2014-11-05 7:09 Christoph Reller
2014-11-05 9:28 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-05 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
> >
> > MWE:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \type{\test\test} %<- no space introduced
> > \bTABLE
> > \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %<- space introduced
> > \eTABLE
> > \stoptext
>
> it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
> wikify it):
>
> \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
>
> \bTABLE
> \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
Thank you very much Hans!
Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in front
of the full stop:
\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\starttext
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext
If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
Regards,
Christoph
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2014-11-05 7:09 Christoph Reller
@ 2014-11-05 9:28 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-11-05 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/5/2014 8:09 AM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
> > >
> > > MWE:
> > >
> > > \starttext
> > > \type{\test\test} %<- no space introduced
> > > \bTABLE
> > > \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %<- space introduced
> > > \eTABLE
> > > \stoptext
> >
> > it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
> > wikify it):
> >
> > \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
> >
> > \bTABLE
> > \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
> > \eTABLE
>
> Thank you very much Hans!
>
> Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in
> front of the full stop:
>
> \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
> \starttext
> \bTABLE
> \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
because the absolute cleaner only deals with \foo { and \foo [
> If this issue is resolved I will be glad to wikify.
i'll add the . to the filter criteria
Hans
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* Natural tables introduces spaces in \type
@ 2014-11-03 12:47 Christoph Reller
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-03 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/2/2014 2:54 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
> >
> > MWE:
> >
> > \starttext
> > \type{\test\test} %<- no space introduced
> > \bTABLE
> > \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %<- space introduced
> > \eTABLE
> > \stoptext
>
> it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
> wikify it):
>
> \definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
>
> \bTABLE
> \bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
Thank you very much Hans!
Maybe you could tell me why the following still produces a space in front
of the full stop:
\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\starttext
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \ctype{\test.txt} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext
Any feedback is welcome.
Regards,
Christoph
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@ 2014-11-02 13:27 Christoph Reller
2014-11-02 13:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Christoph Reller @ 2014-11-02 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
MWE:
\starttext
\type{\test\test} %<- no space introduced
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %<- space introduced
\eTABLE
\stoptext
Kind Regards,
Christoph
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2014-11-02 13:27 Christoph Reller
@ 2014-11-02 13:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-11-02 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 11/2/2014 2:27 PM, Christoph Reller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why does \type{...} introduce spaces when used inside natural tables?
>
> MWE:
>
> \starttext
> \type{\test\test} %<- no space introduced
> \bTABLE
> \bTR \bTD \typ{\test\test} \eTD \eTR %<- space introduced
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
it's the way tex works (when passing arguments) .. you can use this (and
wikify it):
\definetype[ctype][compact=absolute]
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD \ctype{\test\test} \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
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