* combined / compressed / collapsed page and numbered citation references in bibliographies @ 2017-08-13 0:32 Rik Kabel 2017-08-13 2:30 ` Alan Braslau 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2017-08-13 0:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users I noticed that in bibliographies, page indexing combines runs of two or more pages (pp. 150–151), as does page number compression in registers, while it takes three or more numbered citations to cause a similar collapse (per the MKIV-Publications manual, page 38, I do not have an example) for citation number references. Is there a way to change such compression minimums so that they can be made consistent? -- Rik ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: combined / compressed / collapsed page and numbered citation references in bibliographies 2017-08-13 0:32 combined / compressed / collapsed page and numbered citation references in bibliographies Rik Kabel @ 2017-08-13 2:30 ` Alan Braslau 2017-08-13 3:05 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread From: Alan Braslau @ 2017-08-13 2:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rik Kabel; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 20:32:17 -0400 Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com> wrote: > I noticed that in bibliographies, page indexing combines runs of two > or more pages (pp. 150–151), as does page number compression in > registers, while it takes three or more numbered citations to cause a > similar collapse (per the MKIV-Publications manual, page 38, I do not > have an example) for citation number references. > > Is there a way to change such compression minimums so that they can > be made consistent? What seems more logical to you? pp 150,151 or pp 150-151 - of course pp 150-152 makes perfect sense. [2,3] or [2-3] - of course [2-4] also makes sense. I prefer the first choices. ConTeXt registers do the second, and I do not know what led to that choice and if Hans would like to change it (or even make this a parameter). Alan ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
* Re: combined / compressed / collapsed page and numbered citation references in bibliographies 2017-08-13 2:30 ` Alan Braslau @ 2017-08-13 3:05 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2017-08-13 3:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1632 bytes --] On 2017-08-12 22:30, Alan Braslau wrote: > On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 20:32:17 -0400 > Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com> wrote: > >> I noticed that in bibliographies, page indexing combines runs of two >> or more pages (pp. 150–151), as does page number compression in >> registers, while it takes three or more numbered citations to cause a >> similar collapse (per the MKIV-Publications manual, page 38, I do not >> have an example) for citation number references. >> >> Is there a way to change such compression minimums so that they can >> be made consistent? > What seems more logical to you? > pp 150,151 or pp 150-151 - of course pp 150-152 makes perfect sense. > [2,3] or [2-3] - of course [2-4] also makes sense. > > I prefer the first choices. ConTeXt registers do the second, and I do > not know what led to that choice and if Hans would like to change it > (or even make this a parameter). > > Alan I am looking for consistency. For page references, the bibliography subsystem gives: * pp. 1–2 * pp. 1–3 * p. 1 and p. 3 and numeric citations apparently produce: * [1,2] * [1–3] * [1,3] while the index registers give: * 1–2 * 1–3 * 1, 3 Why is the ‘and’ needed in the bibliography page reference? One could also ask why the ‘p.’ and ‘pp.’, but in the more verbose setting of a bibliography, I can live with them. As for the choice of two or more over three or more for compression, I can see arguments for each. A default and the ability to change it seems best, especially for bibliographic entries where publishers have overriding standards. -- Rik -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2496 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 3+ messages in thread
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