* calculating optimal height of textblock
@ 2021-04-28 12:07 denis.maier
2021-04-28 15:57 ` Hans Hagen
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From: denis.maier @ 2021-04-28 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Hi,
how do you usually calcultate your layouts? For example in this example, the third value for height is not really helpful as there will never be a complete line :
=================
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\definepapersize[test][width=140mm,height=208mm]
\setuppapersize[test][test]
\setuplayout[reset]
\setuplayout[backspace=17mm,
topspace=19mm,
header=0mm,
footerdistance=4mm,
footer=5mm,
width=105mm,
%height=174mm,
height=178mm,
%height=177mm, % does not suffice for a complete line
rightmargin=0mm,
leftmargin=0mm,
]
\startsetups[mypenalties]
\setdefaultpenalties
\setpenalties\clubpenalties{2}{0}
\setpenalties\widowpenalties{2}{0}
\setpenalties\displaywidowpenalties{2}{0}
\stopsetups
\setuplayout[setups=mypenalties]
%\showframe
\showmakeup
%\showsetups
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
=================
How do you do this usually? Any best-practices? Hints? Trial and error seems to work ok, but maybe there is a more efficient method...
Best
Denis
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2021-04-28 12:07 calculating optimal height of textblock denis.maier
@ 2021-04-28 15:57 ` Hans Hagen
2021-04-29 8:03 ` denis.maier
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2021-04-28 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, denis.maier
On 4/28/2021 2:07 PM, denis.maier@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> how do you usually calcultate your layouts? For example in this example,
> the third value for height is not really helpful as there will never be
> a complete line :
you can use
lines=40,
instead of height
Hans
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2021-04-28 15:57 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2021-04-29 8:03 ` denis.maier
2021-04-29 9:59 ` denis.maier
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From: denis.maier @ 2021-04-29 8:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: j.hagen, ntg-context
Thanks, Hans. That's really helpful.
Denis
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2021 17:58
> An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>; Maier, Denis
> Christian (UB) <denis.maier@ub.unibe.ch>
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] calculating optimal height of textblock
>
> On 4/28/2021 2:07 PM, denis.maier@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
>
> > how do you usually calcultate your layouts? For example in this
> > example, the third value for height is not really helpful as there
> > will never be a complete line :
>
> you can use
>
> lines=40,
>
> instead of height
>
> Hans
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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* Re: calculating optimal height of textblock
2021-04-29 8:03 ` denis.maier
@ 2021-04-29 9:59 ` denis.maier
2021-04-29 11:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: denis.maier @ 2021-04-29 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: j.hagen, ntg-context
One thing, I've noticed:
Lines=40 seems to add more space than strictly necessary.
Why is that?
Example:
=======================
\setupbodyfont[10pt]
\definepapersize[test][width=140mm,height=208mm]
\setuppapersize[test][test]
\setuppagenumbering[location={footer,middle}]
\setuplayout[reset]
\setuplayout[backspace=17mm,
topspace=19mm,
header=0mm,
headerdistance=0mm,
footerdistance=4mm,
footer=5mm,
width=105mm,
%height=177mm, % does not suffice for a complete line
height=178mm, % enough for a complete line
%lines=40, % adds a bit of extra whitespace below the last line
rightmargin=0mm,
leftmargin=0mm,
]
% \setupalign[line]
% \setuptolerance[vertical,verytolerant,stretch]
% \setupinterlinespace[stretch=0.01]
\startsetups[mypenalties]
\setdefaultpenalties
\setpenalties\clubpenalties{2}{0}
\setpenalties\widowpenalties{2}{0}
\setpenalties\displaywidowpenalties{2}{0}
\stopsetups
\setuplayout[setups=mypenalties]
%\showframe
\showmakeup
\showsetups
\starttext
\dorecurse{5}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext
===============================
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Maier, Denis Christian (UB)
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 10:03
> An: 'Hans Hagen' <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>; mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-
> context@ntg.nl>
> Betreff: AW: [NTG-context] calculating optimal height of textblock
>
> Thanks, Hans. That's really helpful.
>
> Denis
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. April 2021 17:58
> > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>; Maier, Denis
> > Christian (UB) <denis.maier@ub.unibe.ch>
> > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] calculating optimal height of textblock
> >
> > On 4/28/2021 2:07 PM, denis.maier@ub.unibe.ch wrote:
> >
> > > how do you usually calcultate your layouts? For example in this
> > > example, the third value for height is not really helpful as there
> > > will never be a complete line :
> >
> > you can use
> >
> > lines=40,
> >
> > instead of height
> >
> > Hans
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
> > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
> > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
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