* drop cap (initial) and indentation
@ 2021-07-18 21:54 Gerben Wierda
2021-07-19 7:56 ` Nicola
2021-07-19 13:56 ` drop cap (initial) and indentation Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-18 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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With the following minimal example:
\definemeasure[CAindent][12pt]
% Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap:
\setupinitial[n=3,m=1,-\measure{CAindent}]]
\setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}]
\starttext
\placeinitial S{\bf{\kap uppose we}} have a system for the approval of
loans. \input knuth
\stoptext
both the initial and the bold stuff after it is indented. With hoffset I can move the initial, but not what comes after. I have been experimenting but haven’t found a way to solve this.
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PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with lettrine in mkii
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: drop cap (initial) and indentation 2021-07-18 21:54 drop cap (initial) and indentation Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-19 7:56 ` Nicola 2021-07-21 10:00 ` Use of lettrine module in LMTX Gerben Wierda 2021-07-19 13:56 ` drop cap (initial) and indentation Pablo Rodriguez 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Nicola @ 2021-07-19 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: > PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first > character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with > lettrine in mkii I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just need to add the modules manually, currently: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX Nicola ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-19 7:56 ` Nicola @ 2021-07-21 10:00 ` Gerben Wierda 2021-07-21 20:38 ` Nicola 2021-07-21 21:10 ` Use of lettrine module in LMTX Wolfgang Schuster 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-21 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3393 bytes --] > On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: >> PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first >> character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with >> lettrine in mkii > > I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that > you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just > need to add the modules manually, currently: > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \usemodule[lettrine] \setuplettrine[Lines=3, Hang=.5, Oversize=0, Raise=0, Findent=0pt, Nindent=0em, Slope=0em, Ante=, FontHook=, TextFont=\sc, Image=no] \starttext \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext Result: tex error > tex error on line 19 in file ./test.tex: Undefined control sequence <macro> \m_syst_parameter_n ... \the \LettrineHeight ] X}}\scratchcounter = \numexpr (100*\LettrineHeight )/(\ht \Lettrinetbox /100) - 9999\relax \ifnum \scratchcounter >0 \def \tempa {1.\the \scratchcounter }\else \def \tempa {1}\fi \LettrineFontHook \!!dimena = \tempa \Let... <macro> \dolettrine ...\Lettrinefindent =\LettrineFindent \relax \Lettrinelines =\LettrineLines \relax \setbox \Lettrinelbox \hbox {{\ifx \LettrineImage \v!yes \doLettrineEPS {#2}\else \ifx \LettrineImage \v!true \doLettrineEPS {#2}\else \doLettrineFont #2\fi \fi }}\... <line 4.19> \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of 9 Raise=0, 10 Findent=0pt, 11 Nindent=0em, 12 Slope=0em, 13 Ante=, 14 FontHook=, 15 TextFont=\sc, 16 Image=no] 17 18 \starttext 19 >> \lettrine{S}{\kap{\bf uppose we}} have a system for the approval of 20 loans. \input knuth 21 \stoptext 22 The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined. mtx-context | fatal error: return code: 256 Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>) R&A Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > > Nicola > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 15962 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-21 10:00 ` Use of lettrine module in LMTX Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-21 20:38 ` Nicola 2021-07-22 8:05 ` Solution: LMTX initial (drop cap) in combination with indenting Gerben Wierda 2021-07-21 21:10 ` Use of lettrine module in LMTX Wolfgang Schuster 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Nicola @ 2021-07-21 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 2021-07-21, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: >> On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: >>> PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first >>> character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with >>> lettrine in mkii >> >> I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that >> you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just >> need to add the modules manually, currently: >> >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX > > I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with I was sure that I had used lettrine with MKIV in a document of mine, but after your reply I double checked that and, in fact, I was using lettrine only with MKII. On the plus side, I have recovered my settings for MKIV (which work with LMTX as well). I think that the `distance` parameter of \setupinitials does what you want. Besides, if your font provides real small capitals, you may use \definefirstline. This is how I set up things in one of my documents: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onum=no,lnum=yes] % \definefirstline below requires a font that implements small capitals as % a feature (Latin Modern does not). I have used this: % \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][Sorts Mill Goudy] [ % tf=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Regular, % it=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Italic, % ] % If you don't have the font above, try this: \setupbodyfont[heros] \setupbodyfont[mainfont,11pt] \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \defineinitial[normal][ n=3, m=1, distance=18pt, %%%%%%%%% <== Add this %%%%%%%% state=start ] % Special case: drop cap starting with a quote \defineinitial[quote][ n=3, m=2, distance=13pt, hoffset=5pt, % Move drop cap a bit to the left method=none ] % Some initials may need special adjustments, depending on the font \defineinitial[Q][ voffset=2\lineheight, n=3, m=1, distance=18pt, state=start ] % Full first line in small caps \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstline][ alternative=line, style=smallcaps, ] % First n words in small caps (three in this case) \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree][ alternative=word, n=3, style=smallcaps, ] \starttext \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree] \setinitial[normal] Suppose we have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \blank[2*big] \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] \setinitial[quote] “Suppose we have a system for the approval of loans.” \input knuth \blank[2*big] \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] \setinitial[Q] Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos1 eludet? quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia? \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% I hope this will give you some ideas! References: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinitial https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Sorts-Mill-Goudy Nicola ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Solution: LMTX initial (drop cap) in combination with indenting 2021-07-21 20:38 ` Nicola @ 2021-07-22 8:05 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-22 8:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6086 bytes --] > On 21 Jul 2021, at 22:38, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2021-07-21, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote: >>> On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote: >>>> PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first >>>> character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with >>>> lettrine in mkii >>> >>> I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that >>> you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just >>> need to add the modules manually, currently: >>> >>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX >> >> I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with > > I was sure that I had used lettrine with MKIV in a document of mine, but > after your reply I double checked that and, in fact, I was using > lettrine only with MKII. On the plus side, I have recovered my settings > for MKIV (which work with LMTX as well). > > I think that the `distance` parameter of \setupinitials does what you > want. Besides, if your font provides real small capitals, you may use > \definefirstline. > > This is how I set up things in one of my documents: > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality,onum=no,lnum=yes] > > % \definefirstline below requires a font that implements small capitals as > % a feature (Latin Modern does not). I have used this: > % \definefontfamily[mainfont][serif][Sorts Mill Goudy] [ > % tf=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Regular, > % it=name:Sorts Mill Goudy Italic, > % ] > % If you don't have the font above, try this: > \setupbodyfont[heros] > > \setupbodyfont[mainfont,11pt] > > \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] > \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] > > % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: > \defineinitial[normal][ > n=3, > m=1, > distance=18pt, %%%%%%%%% <== Add this %%%%%%%% > state=start > ] > > % Special case: drop cap starting with a quote > \defineinitial[quote][ > n=3, > m=2, > distance=13pt, > hoffset=5pt, % Move drop cap a bit to the left > method=none > ] > > % Some initials may need special adjustments, depending on the font > \defineinitial[Q][ > voffset=2\lineheight, > n=3, > m=1, > distance=18pt, > state=start > ] > > % Full first line in small caps > \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstline][ > alternative=line, > style=smallcaps, > ] > > % First n words in small caps (three in this case) > \definefirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree][ > alternative=word, > n=3, > style=smallcaps, > ] > > \starttext > \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstlinethree] > \setinitial[normal] Suppose we have a system for the approval of > loans. \input knuth > \blank[2*big] > > \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] > \setinitial[quote] “Suppose we have a system for the approval of > loans.” \input knuth > \blank[2*big] > > \setfirstline[smallcapsfirstline] > \setinitial[Q] Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? quam diu > etiam furor iste tuus nos1 eludet? quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit > audacia? > > \stoptext > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > I hope this will give you some ideas! > > References: > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinitial <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinitial> > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline <https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/definefirstline> > https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Sorts-Mill-Goudy <https://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Sorts-Mill-Goudy> > > Nicola Hi Nicola, Thanks. This solves the indentation of the initial itself. What remains is the indentation of the text immediately after, e.g. the 'uppose we’. Minimum example (also visible in your example): %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % This combination of indenting and initial does not work properly, the text following the initial should be unindented \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \defineinitial[normal][n=3,m=1,hoffset=\measure{CAindent},state=start] \starttext \setinitial[normal] S {\bf{\kap uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% The ‘uppose we’ should not be indented more than the lines directly below. I’ve tried everything, e.g. trying some sort of noindent but so far without success. Setting indenting to ‘next', for instance, increases the indenting of that first line after the initial. I’ve found the solution, though: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \definemeasure[CAindent][12pt] \setupindenting[yes,\measure{CAindent}] \setupinitial[n=3,m=1] \starttext \setupindenting[next] \placeinitial S {\bf{\kap uppose we}} have a system for the approval of loans. \input knuth \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% What was required is an explicit \setupindenting[next] before the \placeinitial. After that, the standard setting without tweaking work. G > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 82326 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-21 10:00 ` Use of lettrine module in LMTX Gerben Wierda 2021-07-21 20:38 ` Nicola @ 2021-07-21 21:10 ` Wolfgang Schuster [not found] ` <E7086935-5930-40FD-926A-7B881F56E54A@rna.nl> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-07-21 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1645 bytes --] Gerben Wierda schrieb am 21.07.2021 um 12:00: >> On 19 Jul 2021, at 09:56, Nicola <nvitacolonna@gmail.com >> <mailto:nvitacolonna@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 2021-07-18, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl >> <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote: >>> PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first >>> character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with >>> lettrine in mkii >> >> I do not have an answer to your question, but I'd like to point out that >> you can keep using lettrine with ConTeXt LMTX, if you wish. You just >> need to add the modules manually, currently: >> >> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Modules#ConTeXt_LMTX > > I’ve tried this. Installed the modules and then I get with > > [...] Short version: You get an error message for the \!!dimena command which is used by the module but doesn't exist anymore. Long version: Hans started a few years ago to replace many of the old cryptic names (e.g. \@EAEA) with sometimes longer but more readable names (e.g. \doubleexpandafter). A short while ago he removed a few of these old commands (in this case a length register) in LMTX because they aren't used anymore in the core. The lettrine module is very old and never got a proper MkIV/LMTX version and the use of one of these old commands results in an error. While it's easy to fix the problem you're going to find the next problem because LMTX has a new mechanism which is related to paragraph related settings like indentation. As a result of this new mechanism \lettrine places the initial to the left of the paragraph without reserving space to indent the first few lines. Wolfgang [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2781 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX [not found] ` <E7086935-5930-40FD-926A-7B881F56E54A@rna.nl> @ 2021-07-23 11:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2021-07-23 13:10 ` Gerben Wierda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-07-23 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Gerben Wierda; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 473 bytes --] Gerben Wierda schrieb am 22.07.2021 um 08:43: > So, basically, the page on ConTeXt garden about using older modules in > LMTX is incomplete: not all modules actually work. Many of the modules on the garden are 10 years and older and predate MkIV/LuaTeX. A lot has changed since then and LMTX added many new commands which replaced older mechanism. There is no way all modules can work after these changes (especially modules which add font support in MkII). Wolfgang [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 945 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-23 11:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-07-23 13:10 ` Gerben Wierda 2021-07-23 13:27 ` Arthur Rosendahl 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-23 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1201 bytes --] Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerbenwierda>) R&A Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/> (main site) Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book/> Book: Mastering ArchiMate <https://ea.rna.nl/the-book-edition-iii/> > On 23 Jul 2021, at 13:04, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > > Gerben Wierda schrieb am 22.07.2021 um 08:43: >> So, basically, the page on ConTeXt garden about using older modules in LMTX is incomplete: not all modules actually work. > > Many of the modules on the garden are 10 years and older and predate MkIV/LuaTeX. > > A lot has changed since then and LMTX added many new commands which replaced > older mechanism. There is no way all modules can work after these changes > (especially modules which add font support in MkII). It is OK and understandable that those modules wil be or become out of date. I just made a remark on ConTeXtgarden not mentioning this. I have now downloaded those modules because of the suggestion there, but I should remove them again as they are no longer maintained for LMTX and may not work or stop working at any moment. G [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4538 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-23 13:10 ` Gerben Wierda @ 2021-07-23 13:27 ` Arthur Rosendahl 2021-07-25 20:14 ` Nicola 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Arthur Rosendahl @ 2021-07-23 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: > I just made a remark on ConTeXtgarden not mentioning this. The ConTeXt garden is a collaborative effort; feel free to edit the page that contains incomplete or inaccurate information. Arthur ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-23 13:27 ` Arthur Rosendahl @ 2021-07-25 20:14 ` Nicola 2021-07-25 20:53 ` Modules under LMTX, was " Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Nicola @ 2021-07-25 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 2021-07-23, Arthur Rosendahl <arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: >> I just made a remark on ConTeXtgarden not mentioning this. I am guilty and apologize for the bad advice. But I'd like to point out that not *all* the modules are out of date, so you may still want to retain the directory. For instance, the one I rely upon is the vim module for typesetting code, and that one is compatible with LMTX. There may be others. Nicola ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Modules under LMTX, was Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-25 20:14 ` Nicola @ 2021-07-25 20:53 ` Rik Kabel 2021-07-25 22:20 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2021-07-25 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 7/25/2021 16:14, Nicola wrote: > On 2021-07-23, Arthur Rosendahl <arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:10:59PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: >>> I just made a remark on ConTeXtgarden not mentioning this. > I am guilty and apologize for the bad advice. But I'd like to point out > that not *all* the modules are out of date, so you may still want to > retain the directory. For instance, the one I rely upon is the vim > module for typesetting code, and that one is compatible with LMTX. There > may be others. > > Nicola > Indeed, there are modules that appear to work perfectly well with LMTX. The fancybreak module has no issues in the way I use it. Perhaps a list of modules known to run correctly with LMTX is called for, and perhaps a classification of modules to indicate which ConTeXt versions each supports, and a way to download a distribution-appropriate subset. -- Rik ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Modules under LMTX, was Re: Use of lettrine module in LMTX 2021-07-25 20:53 ` Modules under LMTX, was " Rik Kabel @ 2021-07-25 22:20 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2021-07-25 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sun, 25 Jul 2021, Rik Kabel wrote: > Perhaps a list of modules known to run correctly with LMTX is called > for, and perhaps a classification of modules to indicate which ConTeXt > versions each supports, and a way to download a distribution-appropriate > subset. For some of my modules, I *.mkii, *.mkiv, *.mkxl so that the engine-appropriate version is selected. Note that if there is LMTX prefers mkxl but will select mkiv if mkxl is not available. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: drop cap (initial) and indentation 2021-07-18 21:54 drop cap (initial) and indentation Gerben Wierda 2021-07-19 7:56 ` Nicola @ 2021-07-19 13:56 ` Pablo Rodriguez 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2021-07-19 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 7/18/21 11:54 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > With the following minimal example: > [...] > both the initial and the bold stuff after it is indented. With hoffset I > can move the initial, but not what comes after. I have been > experimenting but haven’t found a way to solve this. Hi Gerben, this might be what you need: % Every chapter body text starts with a drop cap: \setupindenting[yes, medium] \starttext \chapter{Chapter} \placeinitial So it was. \input knuth \placeinitial So it was. \input knuth \noindentation \placeinitial So it was. \input knuth \stoptext Sectioning commands never indent next paragraph by default. You have to type either \setuphead[chapter][indentnext=yes] or \setupheads[indentnext=yes] to enable it. If every chapter starts with an initial, \setuphead[chapter][after={\blank[2*big]\placeinitial}] enables this automatically (\blank[2*big] is the default command after chapter). > [...] > PS. switching \kap and \bf has an interesting result, the first > character of the words is not in bold. This did not happen with lettrine > in mkii, Please, avoid adding questions after a multiline signature (because the lines might be look like belonging to the signature, and not as a question to the list). This might help in LMTX: \definefontfeature[allcaps][uppercasing=yes] \starttext \startTEXpage[offset=1em] {\feature[+][allcaps]\bf uppose we} \stopTEXpage \stoptext I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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