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From: Tobias Burnus <burnus@berlin1.netsurf.de>
Cc: NTG-ConTeXt <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Print "number of pages"
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:19:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35BCC4CF.DDD8A4A3@berlin1.netsurf.de> (raw)

Hallo Hans

> totaalaantalpaginas  totalnumberofpages  <somethinggerman>
                                           gesamtseitenanzahl

> > \usemodules[bibliographic]
> > \bibaddentry[Burnus,T:myExample]
> >    [title={This is an example for a \CONTEXT
> >            version of \LATEX's \BIBTEXT},
> >     author={Tobias P. Burnus}]
> Probably more symmetric, but I understand what you mean.
It was a kind of fast example.

Using BibTeX, one can have a huge number of references predefined in
a bibTeX file, which can be accessed by a ,ref'. ...
 
> > \bibsynonym[thisdoc][Burnus,T:myExample]
> What exactly do you mean here?
... in order to have a good ref name, it has to be long
(e.g."Burnus,T:myExample"),
but if I frequently quote one bib. I don't want to type "xjhsxzh iufidu fidi
fuzidu",
but something shorter.

> > \bibaddtofile[thisdoc][file=myOwnBibs] % taken care of by TeXUtil
> Filtered by texutil for sorting purposes?
For the purpose of sorting (if I use [Schö98]), but also to include into a file
(we might also might use TeX for latter purpose). Consider a bigger environment
(I presently work on a single workstation, but some universities have huge
networks
(actually all) and use TeX to a large extend (not that common :-(  ): Every
,team' has
a selection of articles, to which the frequently refer. For that reason the put
them into
one central file. Every team member has additional a catalog of own files.
It should be possible to add own entries to a database file (both, the own one
and
-- if one has the previleges --  to the one of the team).
 
> > \bibloadfile[file=myOwnBibs] % My Articles
> > \bibloadfile[file=groupBibs] % Articles of my group or freq. used articles
> > \bibloadfile[file=standard_bibs, prefix=TEXprefix]
> 
> Probably only one one file, the one texutil constructed from
> \bibaddtofile
see above.
 
> What does the prefix do?
Having several input files, it might prevent name clashes, compare with ANSI C's
namespaces.
If the names are carefully chosen (and long see \bibsynonym) there shouldn't be
any problem,
which might occure, if there are two team members who ,merge' their articles
(to differnt names files, but articles like my1 my2 etc.)
 
> > \starttext
> > \titlepage
> > {\bibprint[thisdoc][title]}
> > {\bibprint[thisdoc][author][order=FirstLastName]}
> Ok, selection is not the problem.
bibTeX automatically detemerms which part is firstname, and which is lastname,
two fields are also ok. (But also to have either "author1, author2 and author3"
or
"author1 et al.")
 
> > This thesis is taken from \bibref[Burnus,T:Theses], \bibref[Foo,B:Another one].
> > You will find also something on page 4444 in \bibref[TEXprefix:Knuth:TeXBook].                                      \page[about ...]
> 
> > (printed like [1][2] etc. ^1 ^2 ^3 or [Knut76]. Using 1,2,3... it should be
> > possible to group them: [1,2,3,5] or [1-3,5]
> Yes, not that hard too
But not that easy in "plain" bibTeX

> > ConTeXt's bibligraphic modul should also be able to read LaTeX's BibTeX files,
> > making it possible to use the old one or those of colleagues.

> For sure. I was thinking of XINDY too, but that's not finished yet (I
> discussed thsi with the authors at EuroTeX, I need attributes before I
> can use it.) The nice thing of Xindy is that is does advanced sorting.
> Maybe we should look into that first.

OK, especially the sorting like ä -> ae or ä -> a or a < ä < b

> (1) a general database interface (generalizing core-02a.tex)
serial letters, but maybe also list of items incl. images

> (2) a bibliographic module

> (BTW Nelson Beebe published something on this in the tugboat. Maybe I
> should download his stuff first.)

> PS. I have written a dos binary for stripping TEX, sometime back in
> 1993. I probably could do a better job in Perl nowadays.
Probably.

Tobias

PS: I come later back to some details of this letter.


             reply	other threads:[~1998-07-27 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-07-27 18:19 Tobias Burnus [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1998-07-27  6:33 Berend de Boer
1998-07-26 17:49 Hans Hagen
1998-07-26 16:27 Tobias Burnus

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