From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tobias Burnus Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Print "number of pages" Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:19:59 +0200 Sender: owner-ntg-context@let.uu.nl Message-ID: <35BCC4CF.DDD8A4A3@berlin1.netsurf.de> Reply-To: burnus@berlin1.netsurf.de NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035390933 20939 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 16:35:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: NTG-ConTeXt Original-To: Hans Hagen Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:72 Hallo Hans > totaalaantalpaginas totalnumberofpages gesamtseitenanzahl > > \usemodules[bibliographic] > > \bibaddentry[Burnus,T:myExample] > > [title=3D{This is an example for a \CONTEXT > > version of \LATEX's \BIBTEXT}, > > author=3D{Tobias P. Burnus}] > Probably more symmetric, but I understand what you mean. It was a kind of fast example. Using BibTeX, one can have a huge number of references predefined in a bibTeX file, which can be accessed by a ,ref'. ... = > > \bibsynonym[thisdoc][Burnus,T:myExample] > What exactly do you mean here? =2E.. in order to have a good ref name, it has to be long (e.g."Burnus,T:myExample"), but if I frequently quote one bib. I don't want to type "xjhsxzh iufidu f= idi fuzidu", but something shorter. > > \bibaddtofile[thisdoc][file=3DmyOwnBibs] % taken care of by TeXUtil > Filtered by texutil for sorting purposes? For the purpose of sorting (if I use [Sch=F698]), but also to include int= o a file (we might also might use TeX for latter purpose). Consider a bigger envir= onment (I presently work on a single workstation, but some universities have hug= e networks (actually all) and use TeX to a large extend (not that common :-( ): Eve= ry ,team' has a selection of articles, to which the frequently refer. For that reason t= he put them into one central file. Every team member has additional a catalog of own files= =2E It should be possible to add own entries to a database file (both, the ow= n one and -- if one has the previleges -- to the one of the team). = > > \bibloadfile[file=3DmyOwnBibs] % My Articles > > \bibloadfile[file=3DgroupBibs] % Articles of my group or freq. used a= rticles > > \bibloadfile[file=3Dstandard_bibs, prefix=3DTEXprefix] > = > Probably only one one file, the one texutil constructed from > \bibaddtofile see above. = > What does the prefix do? Having several input files, it might prevent name clashes, compare with A= NSI C's namespaces. If the names are carefully chosen (and long see \bibsynonym) there should= n't be any problem, which might occure, if there are two team members who ,merge' their artic= les (to differnt names files, but articles like my1 my2 etc.) = > > \starttext > > \titlepage > > {\bibprint[thisdoc][title]} > > {\bibprint[thisdoc][author][order=3DFirstLastName]} > Ok, selection is not the problem. bibTeX automatically detemerms which part is firstname, and which is last= name, two fields are also ok. (But also to have either "author1, author2 and au= thor3" or "author1 et al.") = > > This thesis is taken from \bibref[Burnus,T:Theses], \bibref[Foo,B:Ano= ther one]. > > You will find also something on page 4444 in \bibref[TEXprefix:Knuth:= TeXBook]. \page[about ...] > = > > (printed like [1][2] etc. ^1 ^2 ^3 or [Knut76]. Using 1,2,3... it sho= uld be > > possible to group them: [1,2,3,5] or [1-3,5] > Yes, not that hard too But not that easy in "plain" bibTeX > > ConTeXt's bibligraphic modul should also be able to read LaTeX's BibT= eX files, > > making it possible to use the old one or those of colleagues. > For sure. I was thinking of XINDY too, but that's not finished yet (I > discussed thsi with the authors at EuroTeX, I need attributes before I > can use it.) The nice thing of Xindy is that is does advanced sorting. > Maybe we should look into that first. OK, especially the sorting like =E4 -> ae or =E4 -> a or a < =E4 < b > (1) a general database interface (generalizing core-02a.tex) serial letters, but maybe also list of items incl. images > (2) a bibliographic module > (BTW Nelson Beebe published something on this in the tugboat. Maybe I > should download his stuff first.) > PS. I have written a dos binary for stripping TEX, sometime back in > 1993. I probably could do a better job in Perl nowadays. Probably. Tobias PS: I come later back to some details of this letter.