Best regards: Otared

On 14 Mar 2024, at 08:12, Emanuel Han via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> = wrote:

Dear Otared,

when you = read the lua code in the first \directlua{}, you should realize that the = dimensions of almost all layout elements are depending on the value of = my lua variable "paperSize".
Thanks to defining = the paper size first in lua, I can apply calculations of numeric values. =

The value of paperSize is later = passed on to \setuppapersize via = \setuppapersize[\directlua{tex.print(paperSize)}]

Emanuel
On M=C3=A4= rz 13 2024, at 3:55 pm, Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> = wrote:
Hi = Emmanuel,

Thank you so much for the = new setup for writing Japanese: I tested with both files, and noticed = that with the new version the output looks great.

I have a question about the code in the \directlua{} part of = your setup: why, for instance, the
paperSize =3D =C2=AB= B5"
is defined =C2=AB by hand =C2=BB there, = instead of being retrieved from the command
\setuppapersize[B5]
issued by the = user?

Actually I am using your setup = for learning Japanese, and at my beginner=E2=80=99s level I do separate = words I am learning with spaces. While with the previous version of your = setup the lines were breaking womewhat strangely, but now the spaces = between words in the output are as I intended them to be (I should also = Thank Wolfgang Schuster for his insight with the \script[nihongo], and = indeed Hans for fixing so quickly the slightest bug).

It is really a great pleasure to be in this = community where help comes from everyone and features are given on = demand !

Best regards: = Otared

> On 10 Mar 2024, at = 17:43, Emanuel Han via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> = wrote:
>
> Hi = all,
>
> I added https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese_Japanese_and_Korean#Meet= ing_the_JIS_X_4051_Requirements_for_Japanese_Text_Layout
> with attached working example code and to-do = list.
>
> Thanks for any = contributions!
>
> The = working example code is still a work in progress. Its text layout output = meets already some of the requirements (see comments in the code). Among = the ones to still be implemented are:
>
> =E2=80=A2 solid setting (no extra spacing between = characters) https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_8 if no requirement for = line-adjustment https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#term.line-adjustment
> =E2=80=A2 aligning of the lines to the Kihon-hanmen = (optimizing the code below in this regard)

> =E2=80= =A2 positioning and realm of headings https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_9 https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_15 et al, and https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig3_1_4

> =E2=80=A2 positioning of yokugo-ruby https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_3_24

> =E2=80=A2 inline cutting note (warichu) https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_4_1

> =E2=80=A2 emphasis with sesame dot or bullet

> =E2=80=A2 itemization https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_6

> =E2=80=A2 indenting of quotation paragraphs https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_5_7

> =E2=80=A2 tab setting https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_6_1

> =E2=80=A2 furiwake https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_2

> =E2=80=A2 jidori https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_4

> =E2=80=A2 math https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_6 and https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig2_7_62

> =E2=80=A2 tategaki (writing vertically)

> Best regards

> Emanuel

> On M=C3=A4rz 2 2024, = at 7:00 pm, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> Emanuel Han schrieb am 01.03.2024 um 16:23:

> Dear Wolfgang,

> thank you for your valuable = remarks. I integrated them, see corrected attached example.

> Yes, correct layout examples = exist. They're all showing vertical writing, but the rules and = principles are exactly the same for horizontal writing.

> =E2=80=A2 position of the = headers and footers: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_30

> See my attached gongitsune.tex = example how you can squeeze text in a very narrow = header/footer.

> =E2=80=A2= aligning lines to the text box: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig1_3

> You can use the lines key for = \setuplayout to let ConTeXt calculate the necessary value for the text = height.

> =E2=80=A2 = protrusion of ruby: https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/#fig_ad1_6

> You're getting this for free = because ruby text doesn't take up vertical space, in case vertical text = is working it would now stick into the margins as expected.

> \starttext

> \ruledhbox{a \ruby{x}{y} b}

> = \stoptext

> In my previous mail, I wrote = wrong amounts of lines. They should be 46 lines on one page, while the = actual example doesn't show the 46th line.

> It would be important to = identify the reason why only 24 characters are used to create a line = when 25 could be used. Then we can develop a method to turn that = mechanism off or circumvent it.

> Quotation from = https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq:

> In = principle, when composing a line with ideographic (cl-19), hiragana = (cl-15) and katakana (cl-16) characters, no extra spacing appears = between their character frame. This is called solid setting (see Figure = 5).

> 1. ConTeXt has a = mechanism to typeset Japanese texts.

> 2. There are flaws in the output it produces but this = nothing which can't be fixed.

> 3. To fix the problems someone has to be passionate to = fix them and we're willing to help here.

> As you can see in my second = example file japanese.tex there is a font feature to create half sized = parentheses etc. which isn't supported yet by ConTeXt's mechanism for = japanese and in case your willing to improve it this should be taken = care of as well.

> = Wolfgang

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