Re: Hyphenation

Re: Hyphenation

[Hans Hagen]

David Arnold wrote:

> (f:\texmf\tex\context\config\cont-usr.tex))
> language       : no patterns en for en (n=0)
> language       : no hyphenations en for en (n=0)
> language       : patterns uk for uk loaded (n=1)

> ConTeXt ver: 1999.5.11 fmt: 1999.5.22 int: english mes: english

> >> It doesn't look like I am getting the hyphenation patterns I need. The
> >> following source generates the attached pdf on my system.

Ah, this is a real problem! I didn't notice that because I use the
lang-* filenames here (those were included in previous distributions).
File mapping is rather recent and was introduced to prevent
duplications. The cont-usr file should have an 'en' entry too! I also
noticed that the uk entry was wrong: should be 'ukhyphen' instead of
'ukhyph'. So much for standards in naming. I don;t think tetex suffers
from this, because Thomas has a system wide mapping system running
there. 

Can you add/change these lines in cont-usr.tex? 

\definefilesynonym [lang-en.pat]  [ushyph1.tex]
\definefilesynonym [lang-us.pat]  [ushyph1.tex]
\definefilesynonym [lang-uk.pat]  [ukhyphen.tex]

Thanks for mentioning the problem, 

Hans

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hyphenation

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

Hi,

Here is a nice trick to show all possible (within the constraints of 
fonts and languages) hyphenations in a paragraoh:

     \bgroup
         \setupalign[flushright]
         \hyphenpenalty-100000
         \input tufte
         \par % force hyphenation
     \egroup

This one does the same for last lines on a page with a hyphen:

\bgroup
   % \interlinepenalty10000
     \brokenpenalty-10000
     \input tufte
\egroup

Hans


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Re: hyphenation

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Untested:

\setupreferenceformat[style=\nohyphens]

Wolfgang


Hans van der Meer schrieb am 26.10.18 um 13:38:
> Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was 
> hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion.
>
> Easily repairable with something 
> like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
> Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting 
> to be fixed.
>
> dr. Hans van der Meer
>
>
>
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Re: hyphenation

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/26/2018 1:38 PM, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was 
> hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion.
> 
> Easily repairable with something 
> like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
> Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting to 
> be fixed.

\nl \hyphenation{XIII}


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hyphenation

[Hans van der Meer]

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Using roman numbers in figures I encountered a case where XIII.9 was hyphenated into XI-II.9. A bit unclear, in my opinion. 

Easily repairable with something like \def\myfigure[#1]{{\nohyphens\in{figure}[#1]}}
Just an observation, not really a problem but maybe something waiting to be fixed.

dr. Hans van der Meer



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Re: hyphenation

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi Hraban,

Your questions are more about luatex than about context, I think
(you _are_ talking about mkiv, yes?)

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Ahoi,
> (1)
> there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it 
> would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some 
> breaks are better than other, e.g.
> Do-nau---dampf--schiff---fahrt
> Wa-ren---wirt--schaft
> Eu-ro-pa---par-la--ment
> (In InDesign I can suggest such priorities if I add words to the user 
> dictionary.)

There is a tracker item to that effect:

   http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=168

but it has no planned deadline yet.

> (2)
> Uses ConTeXt the same hyphenation algorithm as LaTeX? Or one of the 
> newer projects? (perhaps SiSiSi?)

At the moment, the functionality of \patterns in luatex is the same as
in pdf(tex) except that the hyphenation patterns are fully UTF-8.

> (3)
> Further, I wonder why \hyphenation{} is case dependend - in my last 
> project "Secretary General" was wrongly hyphenated, but 
> \hyphenation{se-cre-ta-ry} didn't fix it, I needed 
> \hyphenation{Se-cre-ta-ry}. Does that make sense?

Not so much. At first sight, this looks like a luatex bug. I will 
investigate.

Best wishes,
Taco

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hyphenation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Ahoi,
(1)
there's an ongoing thread on the German mailing list (TeX-D-L), if it  
would be possible to implement weighted(?) hyphenation, i.e. that some  
breaks are better than other, e.g.
Do-nau---dampf--schiff---fahrt
Wa-ren---wirt--schaft
Eu-ro-pa---par-la--ment
(In InDesign I can suggest such priorities if I add words to the user  
dictionary.)

(2)
Uses ConTeXt the same hyphenation algorithm as LaTeX? Or one of the  
newer projects? (perhaps SiSiSi?)

(3)
Further, I wonder why \hyphenation{} is case dependend - in my last  
project "Secretary General" was wrongly hyphenated, but  
\hyphenation{se-cre-ta-ry} didn't fix it, I needed \hyphenation{Se-cre- 
ta-ry}. Does that make sense?



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Re: hyphenation

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

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Hello Thomas and everybody,

I've checked hyph patterns for Russian and languages provided by you. I 
discovered that nothing has changed for last month -- the result is 
exactly the same for luatex 0.35 and 0.37, as well as respective ConTeXt 
builds.

Two demo images are attached.

Vyatcheslav

> Hi Vyatcheslav,
>
> I append a file that I have used, can you simply add tests for Russian 
> and Ukrainian? Yes, I'm using mkiv, latest beta, luatex 0.37.
>
> Thanks for your help - I will be offline until Sunday night.
>
> All best
>
> Thomas
>
>


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Re: hyphenation

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> > Here again the example, where you can see the problem.
>
> Here's no problem - I get hyphenation.

Ok, then there must be a problem with my installation. I only get "evolution"
hyphenated, but not "évolution"... :(
Cheers, Peter

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Re: hyphenation

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Dienstag, 06.01.04, um 17:58 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Peter 
Münster:
> The original posted example began with \fr, which should be the same as
> \language[fr].

right.

> Here again the example, where you can see the problem.

Here's no problem - I get hyphenation.

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Re: hyphenation

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:04 02/04/2003 +0200, Zeljko Vrba wrote:

>I'm typesetting something in Croatian language. In cont-en.tex I put
>an \installlanguage, and properly configured the hyphenation tables
>(which languages to include/exclude).  In my main project file, I put
>\mainlanguage[hr]. Is this enough for Context to use Croatian hyphenation
>rules? Is there a way to check by which rules does it hyphenate?
>
>(I myself am not too familiar with my own language's hyphenation :),
>but some words do appear hyphenated strangely nevertheless.. so I'd just
>want to check it)

this is also related to the (font) encoding; are you sure that the encoding 
matches the patterns?

(can be set up with installlanguage, see czech)

Hans


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hyphenation

[Zeljko Vrba]

I'm typesetting something in Croatian language. In cont-en.tex I put
an \installlanguage, and properly configured the hyphenation tables
(which languages to include/exclude).  In my main project file, I put
\mainlanguage[hr]. Is this enough for Context to use Croatian hyphenation
rules? Is there a way to check by which rules does it hyphenate?

(I myself am not too familiar with my own language's hyphenation :),
but some words do appear hyphenated strangely nevertheless.. so I'd just
want to check it)