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From: "Jan Tosovsky" <j.tosovsky@email.cz>
To: "'mailing list for ConTeXt users'" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Length range control of the last line of paragraph
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:57:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37744.7820421823$1458680308@news.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F11B85.4010407@wxs.nl>

On 2016-03-22 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 3/21/2016 8:14 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > when paragraphs are separated by indenting the first line (instead of
> an
> > empty line), these rules should be followed:
> >
> > (1) the last line lenght is greater than the left indent
> >      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      xxxx
> >        xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > (2) the last line is shorter than block width
> >      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >        xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> 
> you need to keep in mind that what would work out well for one specific
> case will not look nice in general as the last line filling is just one
> of the aspects ... so, your last line + following first line might look
> okay (according to whatever rules and criteria) but then, as you also
> need to increase the tolerance and enable stretch to permit that
> solution to be found, the rest might look like crap

I (naively) thought the last line can be somehow isolated in the engine so the parfillskip settings doesn't influence the rest (too much). 

I understand your point.
 
> > (ad 2) This can be done using \parfillskip XXpt plus 1fil (where 
> > XX is required gap)
> 
> setting the XXpt is tricky as it might lead to underful or overful
> cases when that amount start interfering with an optimal solution (as it's
> seen as acceptable overflow in some direction)
> 

underful or overful where? in previous lines? I am quite lost here :-)

> it's hard to envision an interface, maybe some extra key in setupalign
> 
> \setupindenting[big] \indenting[yes]
> 
> \edef\ward{\cldloadfile{ward}}
> 
> \setupalign[verytolerant,stretch]
> 
> \dorecurse{100}{
>      \hsize\dimexpr\textwidth-#1mm\relax
>      \parfillskip \zeropoint plus 1fil\relax
>      \ward  \par
>      \parfillskip \zeropoint plus \dimexpr\availablehsize-
> 3\parindent\relax
>      \ward  \par
>      \startnarrower[left]
>          \parfillskip \zeropoint plus 1fil\relax
>          \ward \par
>      \stopnarrower
>      \startnarrower[left]
>          \parfillskip \zeropoint plus
> \dimexpr\availablehsize-3\parindent\relax
>          \ward \par
>      \stopnarrower
>      \page
> }

Wow, this is cool visualization!

When \zeropoint is replaced by e.g. 2em, I have what wanted originally.

Could anybody explain drawbacks of such approach? I mean especially that overful magic above. I'd like to summarize this topic on Wiki.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-22 20:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <016501d183a5$d3c48810$7b4d9830$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-21 23:51 ` Rogers, Michael K
2016-03-22 20:29   ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]   ` <01b001d18479$93c9f310$bb5dd930$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-22 20:44     ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-22 10:16 ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-22 20:57   ` Jan Tosovsky [this message]
     [not found]   ` <01b401d1847d$798a9a00$6c9fce00$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-22 21:46     ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-23 19:14       ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]       ` <018a01d18538$3f17eb50$bd47c1f0$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-23 23:21         ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-24 19:36           ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]           ` <02cd01d18604$82a81620$87f84260$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-24 20:54             ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-25 13:40               ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]               ` <008a01d1869b$e0b90610$a22b1230$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-25 14:09                 ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-25 21:57                   ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]                   ` <00dd01d186e1$656dbff0$30493fd0$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-26 10:48                     ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-26 13:31                       ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]                       ` <003f01d18763$c77c4fe0$5674efa0$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-26 22:05                         ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-30 19:23                       ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]                       ` <017b01d18ab9$99df34e0$cd9d9ea0$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-30 22:11                         ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-25 16:56                 ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-22 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-22 13:31   ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-23 19:47     ` Jan Tosovsky
2016-03-24  2:10     ` Aditya Mahajan
2016-03-24  9:47       ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-23 19:14   ` Jan Tosovsky
     [not found]   ` <018901d18538$3ef34c50$bcd9e4f0$@tosovsky@email.cz>
2016-03-23 23:22     ` Hans Hagen
2016-03-21 19:14 Jan Tosovsky

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