From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/59490 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bernhard Rosensteiner Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Kerning messed up for Minion Pro in ConTeXt 2010.06.09 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: <37827197-69E3-4D6E-8805-EB4EFB554C51@gmail.com> References: <4C0FC31A.3060202@uni-ulm.de> <4C10A310.7070601@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1426766835==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276171068 1639 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2010 11:57:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:57:48 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 10 13:57:46 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMgOG-0001qv-Kz for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31C7C9B88; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gASSZKBxexR0; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E850CC9B7A; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2829C9B7A for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LX8qc-fRtUz4 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27674C9B41 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so104719fxm.14 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:57:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references:message-id :x-mailer; bh=C8xa4f2VANGVB8Y0+6cWYrf7A8r3q+McnSvFygYMB2g=; b=fGfHuPfYTmE10aKIkJGgcf3OX1b0ucAlHzTXKjZE1F183JzQiHiYv43YJzAT1eiFXY 8A/Q1T4Ll82QXOMjmDecDecYjqUqFh3Mj69miFpiP0COpXMV3ZbCd3gob6XWz3ybM+BU v3ljjHOmRUp7KBR754oUzDfy+EOWO/NhRGunQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; b=cqHsgQXUzionVOuXRidFRSTCJLHcYNZ54396GZ4czD27DM06vSSNTbcpcdePdbIFd4 NkhKweGw+J2fXWdi2woFwz1KHeHxnetL3csm9/kpuDs58KiNDBEl8aMDh2fzEskuPQgR fqrVvoRAu+J8pY7m/UtlCYX3gvNg7ktryYBC0= Original-Received: by 10.223.20.218 with SMTP id g26mr129253fab.18.1276171056880; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 196-086-142-078.ascus.at ([78.142.86.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm8776603fad.10.2010.06.10.04.57.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:57:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4C10A310.7070601@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:59490 Archived-At: --===============1426766835== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--636371637 --Apple-Mail-9--636371637 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Am 10.06.2010 um 10:32 schrieb Hans Hagen: > On 9-6-2010 10:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy wrote: >>>=20 >>> it looks like the kerning has gone weird for Minion Pro in the = latest >>> ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the problem, all = others >>> looked fine). I've attached a PDF to show the effect. >>=20 >> Just a blind guess. Some Adobe fonts use "kerning groups" (a set of >> characters with equal kerning on left/right), while most fonts, in >> particular all the Polish fonts/LM use just "normal kerning" (kerning >> defined for each pair of characters). I suspect that only kerning of >> "group of characters" might be broken. >=20 > test code needed how exactly should the test code look like? to reproduce it one needs = the adobe fonts. Here are links to my testing of the adobe opticals: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2082519/Typescript_Test.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2082519/Typescript_Test.log Probably this does not help much but shows that the problem is not only = with minion pro. best regards Bernhard --Apple-Mail-9--636371637 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On = 9-6-2010 10:59, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On = Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:36, Michael Murphy = wrote:

it looks like the kerning has = gone weird for Minion Pro in the = latest
ConTeXt (this is the only font I could find with the = problem, all others
looked fine). I've attached a = PDF to show the effect.

Just a blind = guess. Some Adobe fonts use "kerning groups" (a set = of
characters with equal = kerning on left/right), while most fonts, in
particular all the Polish fonts/LM use just "normal = kerning" (kerning
defined for = each pair of characters). I suspect that only kerning = of
"group of characters" might = be broken.

test code = needed



how exactly should the test code look like? to reproduce it one needs = the adobe fonts.
Here are links to my testing of the adobe = opticals:

http://dl.dro= pbox.com/u/2082519/Typescript_Test.log

Probably= this does not help much but shows that the problem is not only with = minion pro.

best = regards
Bernhard

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