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From: "Jan U. Hasecke" <juh+ntg-context@mailbox.org>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: Any plans for an active color management?
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 17:57:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37e1178c-c944-a8b6-750c-c8ef369563e6@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2E537003-8FC8-46BB-97EE-6D743B782DC8@fiee.net>

Hi Henning Hraban,

I contacted three print shops and they demand three different color
profiles, one of them prints on "100 % recycling paper" with an uncoated
profile. The other two use ISO Coated v2 300% and Coated Fogra 39.

Being online shops I think they will complain if not the right profile
is provided. But anyway.

I will summarize:

Am 17.02.20 um 16:35 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

> That means you should keep your photos in (profiled) RGB. Probably
> best use sRGB to stay device independend, because that’s default for
> monitors, even if printshops like Adobe RGB or one of the profiles
> that shrink the RGB color space to printable colors.

1. All my images should be profiled. I think I can do this in Gimp.

> For type and logos I still rely on (device dependend) CMYK colors and
> my experience how they’ll come out in Euroscale printing. 

Device depended means what?

I did this to convert our RGB corporate colors to device depended CMYK:

transicc -i sRGB.icc -o Fogra/Iso-whatever.icc

But what shall I do with the logo? It is a RGB SVG.

Do I understand you correctly that the best would be to ask someone with
Indesign to convert it to CMYK with the above cited profile chain?

Or shall I tell the designer: These are the values I need as CMYK, just
do it.

> Colors that you define in TeX or Metapost are a different problem. I
> *think* they should use the output intent as their profile. But I
> don’t know if the intent option of \setupcolors and/or \setupbackend
> really works this way. (My only means to check was Acrobat Pro 9, and
> that won’t run on a current macOS any more.)

I do it like this:

\startmode[fogra39]
\definecolor  [hs-logoblau]   [c=1.000, m=0.735, y=0.279, k=0.160]
\definecolor  [hs-dunkelblau] [c=0.844, m=0.544, y=0.070, k=0.000]
\definecolor  [hs-hellblau]   [c=0.468, m=0.220, y=0.086, k=0.002]
\definecolor  [hs-orange]     [c=0.127, m=0.832, y=1.000, k=0.042]

\setupcolors[cmyk=yes,rgb=no,]

\setupbackend[
   format=PDF/X-3:2003,
   intent={Coated FOGRA39 (ISO 12647-2:2004)},
   ]
\stopmode


I like your thought that all profiles are more or less the same. That
would mean that my designer could convert our SVG logo and our SVG icons
to Device-profiled CMYK-PDF and I am good.
 Thanks for your help.
juh
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-17 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-17 14:03 Jan U. Hasecke
2020-02-17 14:39 ` Hans Hagen
2020-02-17 14:51   ` Floris van Manen
2020-02-17 15:10     ` juh
2020-02-17 17:52       ` Floris van Manen
2020-02-17 18:44         ` Hans Hagen
2020-02-17 15:35 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-02-17 16:57   ` Jan U. Hasecke [this message]
2020-02-17 18:36     ` Henning Hraban Ramm

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