* \definestartstop
@ 2000-05-16 20:20 Hraban
2000-05-17 15:30 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
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From: Hraban @ 2000-05-16 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello TeXperts!
I use the "verse" environment in my LaTeX document that I try to
translate to ConTeXt. The lines are separated by \\
Since I converted all \start{environment} to \startenvironment, I defined
\definestartstop[verse][???]
What command should I write into the second braces to get an indent and
to let ConTeXt accept the \\ ?
Generally: How can I use an other \startxxx ... \stopxxx in an
\definestartstop ?
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Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-05-16 20:20 \definestartstop Hraban
@ 2000-05-17 15:30 ` Hans Hagen
2000-05-18 13:42 ` \definestartstop Hraban
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-05-17 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 10:20 PM 5/16/2000 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>Hello TeXperts!
>
>I use the "verse" environment in my LaTeX document that I try to
>translate to ConTeXt. The lines are separated by \\
How exactly should the verse look like? Maybe there is something better.
Hans
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-05-17 15:30 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
@ 2000-05-18 13:42 ` Hraban
2000-05-18 22:25 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
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From: Hraban @ 2000-05-18 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> >I use the "verse" environment in my LaTeX document that I try to
> >translate to ConTeXt. The lines are separated by \\
>
> How exactly should the verse look like? Maybe there is something better.
The text should be indented right and left (Indent like at the beginning
of a paragraph), that's all for now. I'd like to define it as an own
environment, for I don't know, if the editors want to get all verses changed.
The point is that I don't want to search for all \\ in verses in several
large documents. I could delete *all* \\ with sed and use \startlines,
but there are more \\, e.g. in tables that I didn't converted yet.
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Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Tel. (0911) 5487697
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-05-18 13:42 ` \definestartstop Hraban
@ 2000-05-18 22:25 ` Hans Hagen
2000-05-26 17:41 ` \definestartstop Hraban
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-05-18 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 03:42 PM 5/18/2000 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>The text should be indented right and left (Indent like at the beginning
>of a paragraph), that's all for now. I'd like to define it as an own
>environment, for I don't know, if the editors want to get all verses changed.
>
>The point is that I don't want to search for all \\ in verses in several
>large documents. I could delete *all* \\ with sed and use \startlines,
>but there are more \\, e.g. in tables that I didn't converted yet.
Eh, what do you mean:
xxxxxx
yyyyyy
xxxxxx
yyyyyy
is explained in the manual (startlines...stoplines with odd even indent)
You can assign \\ a value like in:
\definestartstop
[verses]
[before=\blank\startpacked,
after=\stoppacked\blank,
commands={\let\\=\crlf}]
How exactly is a verse coded now?
Hans
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-05-18 22:25 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
@ 2000-05-26 17:41 ` Hraban
2000-05-27 8:40 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
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From: Hraban @ 2000-05-26 17:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Eh, what do you mean:
>
> xxxxxx
> yyyyyy
> xxxxxx
> yyyyyy
>
> is explained in the manual (startlines...stoplines with odd even indent)
I meant something like:
---
This is the first line of the first paragraph of a chapter. It isn't indented.
This is normal text. The first line is indented. We will interrupt it with
a sample from a flemish folk song (you can't see the right indenting;
and it is not really necessary):
Allen die willen naar Island gaan
om kabeljauw te vangen
en te vissen met verlangen.
Naar Iseland, naar Iseland,
naar Island toe;
tot 33 reizen zij zijn nog niet moe.
And this is normal text again.
---
> \definestartstop
> [verses]
> [before=\blank\startpacked,
> after=\stoppacked\blank,
> commands={\let\\=\crlf}]
It doesn't work -- TeX claims some errors...
> How exactly is a verse coded now?
\startverse % was: \begin{verse}
Allen die willen naar Island gaan \\
om kabeljauw te vangen \\
en te vissen met verlangen.
Naar Iseland, naar Iseland, \\
naar Island toe; \\
tot 33 reizen zij zijn nog niet moe.
\stopverse % was: \end{verse}
(verse is a standard environment of LaTeX)
But I removed all \\ now.
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Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-05-26 17:41 ` \definestartstop Hraban
@ 2000-05-27 8:40 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-05-27 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 07:41 PM 5/26/2000 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>I meant something like:
>
>---
>This is the first line of the first paragraph of a chapter. It isn't
indented.
> This is normal text. The first line is indented. We will interrupt it with
>a sample from a flemish folk song (you can't see the right indenting;
>and it is not really necessary):
>
> Allen die willen naar Island gaan
> om kabeljauw te vangen
> en te vissen met verlangen.
>
> Naar Iseland, naar Iseland,
> naar Island toe;
> tot 33 reizen zij zijn nog niet moe.
>
>And this is normal text again.
\setupindenting
[medium]
\definestartstop
[Poetry]
[before={\setuplines[indenting=yes]\startlines},
after=\stoplines]
Misschien bedoel je:
\startPoetry
welnu zei de tex-er tevree
dat valt me uiteindelijk nog mee
met wat start en wat stop en wat macro gedoe
kom ik eindelijk weer eens aan wat echt dichtwerk toe
\stopPoetry
dus.
Hans
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-02-22 9:14 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
@ 2000-02-22 12:52 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-02-22 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Michal Kvasnicka, Context
At 10:14 AM 2/22/2000 +0100, Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen wrote:
>This doesn't work in conTeXt due to the nature of TeX *and* due to the
>implementation of \stopitemize. \stopitemize is a special macro, which does
>special thing.
In this case the {} as taco suggested will work ok.
>The way to implement custom itemisation is too change the behaviour of
>startitemize usding \setupitemize.
On my todo list is something:
\defineitemize [instance]
\setupitemize [instance] [level] [vals] [vars]
(the less settings in the source, the better)
Hans
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-02-21 16:35 \definestartstop Michal Kvasnicka
2000-02-22 9:14 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
2000-02-22 9:15 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
@ 2000-02-22 9:58 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2000-02-22 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Michal" == Michal Kvasnicka <qasar@econ.muni.cz> writes:
Michal> Hallo! Why this stuff doesn't work (and to improve it)?
Michal> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize,after=\stopitemize]
this should work
Michal> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize[n],after=\stopitemize]
this not.
But this should also work:
\definestartstop[vycet][before={\startitemize[n]},after=\stopitemize]
greetings, taco
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-02-21 16:35 \definestartstop Michal Kvasnicka
2000-02-22 9:14 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
@ 2000-02-22 9:15 ` Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
2000-02-22 9:58 ` \definestartstop Taco Hoekwater
2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen @ 2000-02-22 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Hallo!
>
> Why this stuff doesn't work (and to improve it)?
>
> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize,after=\stopitemize]
>
> or rather
>
> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize[n],after=\stopitemize]
This doesn't work in conTeXt due to the nature of TeX *and* due to the
implementation of \stopitemize. \stopitemize is a special macro, which does
special thing.
The way to implement custom itemisation is too change the behaviour of
startitemize usding \setupitemize.
Gilbert.
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* Re: \definestartstop
2000-02-21 16:35 \definestartstop Michal Kvasnicka
@ 2000-02-22 9:14 ` Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
2000-02-22 12:52 ` \definestartstop Hans Hagen
2000-02-22 9:15 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
2000-02-22 9:58 ` \definestartstop Taco Hoekwater
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen @ 2000-02-22 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Hallo!
>
> Why this stuff doesn't work (and to improve it)?
>
> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize,after=\stopitemize]
>
> or rather
>
> \definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize[n],after=\stopitemize]
This doesn't work in conTeXt due to the nature of TeX *and* due to the
implementation of \stopitemize. \stopitemize is a special macro, which does
special thing.
The way to implement custom itemisation is too change the behaviour of
startitemize usding \setupitemize.
Gilbert.
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* \definestartstop
@ 2000-02-21 16:35 Michal Kvasnicka
2000-02-22 9:14 ` \definestartstop Gilbert van den Dobbelsteen
` (2 more replies)
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From: Michal Kvasnicka @ 2000-02-21 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hallo!
Why this stuff doesn't work (and to improve it)?
\definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize,after=\stopitemize]
or rather
\definestartstop[vycet][before=\startitemize[n],after=\stopitemize]
Many thanks
M.K.
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