* Problems with quote and quotation
@ 2000-10-05 0:10 Uwe Koloska
2000-10-05 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
2000-10-05 8:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Uwe Koloska @ 2000-10-05 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
in the beta manuals index and on this list there was mentioned a command
\setupquotation that does not exist.
The following minimal text shows some unexpected results:
--- snip ---
\setupquote[style=italic,before=\hairline,after=\hairline]
\starttext
Why does this not give a quotation in italics? \quotation{Hey, I am a
placeholder.} \quote{And I am, too.} Why can't I setup quotations?
\startquotation
Another citation now on its own line
\stopquotation
Here a line of normal text that says nothing but makes hopefully a
linefull of meaningless characters.
\stoptext
--- snip ---
- the \quotation{} isn't affected at all. How can I setup this?
- the \quote is affected, but how can I get quotationmarks around the qoute
_and_ set it in italics? In general: How can I combine some styles
(color, font and quotationmarks)
- where is the indentation that is shown in the manual?
- what do I have to do to make the spacing below the quotation and the
\hairline as the above one?
I have version 2000.9.21.
Uwe
BTW: Why is the default for \em set to slanted?
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-05 0:10 Problems with quote and quotation Uwe Koloska
@ 2000-10-05 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
2000-10-05 8:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-10-05 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
Uwe asked:
BTW: Why is the default for \em set to slanted?
Because i don't like (compouter modern) italic in running text. That's
really the only reason.
Hans
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-05 0:10 Problems with quote and quotation Uwe Koloska
2000-10-05 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2000-10-05 8:56 ` Hans Hagen
2000-10-13 19:16 ` Hraban
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-10-05 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: NTG-ConTeXt
At 02:10 AM 10/5/00 +0200, Uwe Koloska wrote:
>The following minimal text shows some unexpected results:
This code assumes that an inline quotation is indeed in a normal font. I
can add a new setup command that permits more control over quotations.
>- what do I have to do to make the spacing below the quotation and the
> \hairline as the above one?
not much now, i'll repair this, since it looks like some spacing
optimization got lost
before=\starttextrule{},after=\stoptextrule
is btw the way to handle this
quotes are aet up as language options (see lang-ger.tex) and obey the
\mainlanguage settings.
Hans
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-05 8:56 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2000-10-13 19:16 ` Hraban
2000-10-14 20:16 ` Hraban
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From: Hraban @ 2000-10-13 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> This code assumes that an inline quotation is indeed in a normal font. I
> can add a new setup command that permits more control over quotations.
Would be nice.
Perhaps would that solve my (already asked but not answered) problem:
I need a footnote to a longer (start/stop) quotation.
The footnote sign must stand after the closing quote.
Is there a way to do that?
\startquotation
heute ist morgen gestern
\stopquotation\footnote{einer von Hrabans Lieblingsspr"uchen}
should become
heute ist morgen gestern*
and not
heute ist morgen gestern
*
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-13 19:16 ` Hraban
@ 2000-10-14 20:16 ` Hraban
2000-10-15 19:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hraban @ 2000-10-14 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
> I need a footnote to a longer (start/stop) quotation.
> The footnote sign must stand after the closing quote.
> Is there a way to do that?
Sorry, I found a way myself. Not very elegant, but works...
But the mentioned command \setupquotations[] seems really
not to exist. Or am I wrong?
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-14 20:16 ` Hraban
@ 2000-10-15 19:35 ` Hans Hagen
2000-10-16 19:36 ` Hraban
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-10-15 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 10:16 PM 10/14/00 +0200, Hraban wrote:
>> I need a footnote to a longer (start/stop) quotation.
>> The footnote sign must stand after the closing quote.
>> Is there a way to do that?
>
>Sorry, I found a way myself. Not very elegant, but works...
>
>But the mentioned command \setupquotations[] seems really
>not to exist. Or am I wrong?
You're right and it will be there some day soon. The footnote is an
interesting complication.
Hans
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* Re: Problems with quote and quotation
2000-10-15 19:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2000-10-16 19:36 ` Hraban
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From: Hraban @ 2000-10-16 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
(Sorry Hans, forget the other version of this mail.)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> You're right and it will be there some day soon. The footnote is an
> interesting complication.
My solution was:
(quote symbols defined after your mail for Guiseppe; used also \setupnarrower)
\def\StartZitat{\par\startnarrower\symbol[leftquote]}
\def\StopZitat#1{\symbol[rightquote]\footnote{#1}\stopnarrower\par}
(Hope I remembered it right -- can't look after my Linux TeX-files
while mailing under MacOS.)
Has some restrictions, but fits my actual needs.
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