* last questions, urgent @ 2000-11-13 20:56 Hraban 2000-11-14 6:17 ` Berend de Boer 2000-11-14 8:28 ` last questions, urgent Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hraban @ 2000-11-13 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello again! End of this week "my" book goes to the printshop. I could solve most probplems, most with your valuable help. Thank you! But some remain, and I hope they can be solved quickly: - I need \nolist and \nomarking to hide parts of long chapter titles. But the "..." in head and t.o.c. must disappear. How? (Sorry, I can't understand the syntax of "geenlijst" and "geenmarkering" definition.) - I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem of grid setting? What to do? - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition? Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: last questions, urgent 2000-11-13 20:56 last questions, urgent Hraban @ 2000-11-14 6:17 ` Berend de Boer 2000-11-14 17:57 ` Hraban 2000-11-14 21:58 ` lost part header et al (was: last questions) Hraban 2000-11-14 8:28 ` last questions, urgent Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Berend de Boer @ 2000-11-14 6:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ConTeXt Hraban wrote: > - I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool > is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to > insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem > of grid setting? What to do? You can also use \adaptlayout [5] [width=+1cm] or \adaptlayout [3,9,12] [width=+0.5cm] or something like that to make certain pages a bit smaller or larger. Put this on top of your document. Probably preferred instead of changing the document itself. > - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry > in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed > it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition? Yes please. Groetjes, Berend. (-: ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: last questions, urgent 2000-11-14 6:17 ` Berend de Boer @ 2000-11-14 17:57 ` Hraban 2000-11-15 0:27 ` Hans Hagen 2000-11-14 21:58 ` lost part header et al (was: last questions) Hraban 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Hraban @ 2000-11-14 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Berend de Boer wrote: > > - I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool > > is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to > > insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem > > of grid setting? What to do? > > You can also use > \adaptlayout > or something like that to make certain pages a bit smaller or larger. Oh God, no! This is a serious book, no kindergarden! ;-) I really only want to push (or "pull") some paragraphs one line forward or backward! I thought, \blank or \blank[back] should work, but they don't. That's all. I couldn't find the right tolerance settings to prevent widows and orphants as far as possible -- perhaps I might redefine the space before "subject" to be a bit flexible, but I don't know how. (This would make redundant my manual trickery.) > > - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry > > in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed > > it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition? see next mail (I have to reboot for Linux first, my modem works only with MacOS...) Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: last questions, urgent 2000-11-14 17:57 ` Hraban @ 2000-11-15 0:27 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-11-15 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ntg-context At 06:57 PM 11/14/00 +0100, you wrote: >I really only want to push (or "pull") some paragraphs one line >forward or backward! >I thought, \blank or \blank[back] should work, but they don't. That's all. they should, but two blanks is \blank[2*big] and not \blank \blank, since blank cancels previous smaller/equal ones. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* lost part header et al (was: last questions) 2000-11-14 6:17 ` Berend de Boer 2000-11-14 17:57 ` Hraban @ 2000-11-14 21:58 ` Hraban 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hraban @ 2000-11-14 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw) > > - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry > > in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed > > it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition? > Yes please. Thank you for your patience! If you find something other that I could improve, please tell me! (I wrote some more questions between) --- %interface=en response=de tex=pdfetex output=pdf language=de % \mainlanguage [deo] % hyphenation patterns seem to be de-new! why? \useencoding [fde] \definepapersize [UBuch][width=14cm,height=21cm] \setuppapersize [UBuch][UBuch] \setuplayout [width=11cm,height=17cm, header=14pt,headerdistance=10pt, footer=14pt,footerdistance=10pt, backspace=10mm, grid=yes, marking=off, location=center] \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, way=bytext, sectionnumber=no, partnumber=no] \def\SeiteInhalt{ \setuppagenumbering [location={footer,marginedge}] % % the chapter thing works, part is empty! \setupheadertexts [][{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}][part][] \setupbackgrounds [header][text][frame=off,bottomframe=on] \setupbackgrounds [rightpage][background=] } \def\SeiteOhne{ \setupbackgrounds [rightpage][background=] \setupbackgrounds [header][text][bottomframe=off] \setuppagenumbering [location={}] } % Hintergrundbild f"ur Part \useexternalfigure[hintergrund][part][width=15cm] \defineoverlay[titelbild][{\externalfigure[hintergrund]}] \def\SeitePart{ \setuppagenumbering [location={}] \page [right] \setupbackgrounds [rightpage][background=titelbild] \setupbackgrounds [header][text][bottomframe=off] } % wird in kap0-0-titelei verwendet \setupbodyfont [ber,ppl,10pt] \setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic] % slanted is ugly! \setupindenting [12pt] % why not the same for itemize? \setupnarrower [left=12pt, right=0pt, before={\noindent}, after={}] % conversion=set 3 causes strange errors! \setupfootnotes [way=bypage, rule=off] % special part title \def\UPart#1#2% {\tfd\it #1: #2} \def\StartPart#1% {\bgroup \page[right] \setuppagenumbering[location={}] \setupbackgrounds[rightpage][background=titelbild] \setupbackgrounds [header][text][bottomframe=off] \part{#1} \vfill \tfb\setupinterlinespace[big]} \def\StopPart% {\par\vfill\vfill \page[right] \SeiteInhalt % see above \egroup \relax} % HEADERS \setupheads [align=right,tolerance=verytolerant] \setuphead [part] [command=\UPart, style=\tfd\it, placehead=yes, number=yes, pagenumber=no] \setuphead [chapter] [style=\tfc\it, number=no, page=yes, align=right] % page=yes doesn't work everywhere!! \setuphead [title] [style=\tfc\it, page=yes, placehead=yes, align=right, after={\blank}] \setuphead [subject] [style=\tfb\it, align=right] \setuphead [subsubject] [style=\tfa\it, align=right, before={\blank}, after={}] % special headers for one chapter \def\subtitel#1#2{\subject{\NurLang{\tfx\it#1\crlf}#2}} % TABLE OF CONTENTS \definelist [part] \setuplist [part] [style={\bf\it}, partnumber=no, before={\blank}] \definelist [chapter] \setuplist [chapter] [alternative=b, partnumber=no, interaction=pagenumber] \definecombinedlist[inhalt] [part,chapter] [level=chapter, placehead=yes, criterium=all, interaction=pagenumber, style=\tfc\it, alternative=b] % for parts of titles that shouldn't appear in lists and page headers \def\NurLang#1{\nomarking{\nolist{#1}}} \def\NLLF{\NurLang{\crlf}} % F"ur die einfachen F"alle: Wort gleichzeitig in Text und Index \def\Tindex#1{\index{#1} #1} \setupfloats [width=11cm] % seems to have no effect? \setupcaptions[number=no, align=right] % dito \setuptables [width=11cm, bodyfont=small, before=\nohyphen, after={}] \setupregister[index] [partnumber=no,criterium=all, balance=yes, style=\tfa\cap] % style undocumented, but works % ENVIRONMENTS \definestartstop [anmerkung] [before={\startlinecorrection\vbox\bgroup \switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[small]\noindent}, after={\egroup\stoplinecorrection\relax}] \definestartstop [verse] [before={\blank\setuplines[indenting=always] \startalignment[right]\startlines\startnarrower}, after={\stopnarrower\stoplines\stopalignment\blank}] \definestartstop [autor] [before={\startalignment[left]\it\noindent}, after={\stopalignment}] \def\Autor#1#2{\page[no]\startautor \index{#2}#1\stopautor\relax} \unprotect % richtige Anf"uhrungszeichen \definesymbol [beginquotation] [\getvalue{\??la\currentlanguage\c!leftquotation}] \definesymbol [endquotation] [\getvalue{\??la\currentlanguage\c!rightquotation}] \protect \definestartstop % like start/stopquotation [zitat] [before={\startnarrower\noindent\symbol[beginquotation]}, after={\symbol[endquotation]\stopnarrower}] \def\StartZitat{\par\startnarrower\noindent\symbol[beginquotation]} \def\StopZitat#1{\symbol[endquotation]\footnote{#1}\stopnarrower\par} % FIGURES \def\ZweiSym#1#2#3#4% not enough space over figures! {\par\vfill\blank\placefigure[][sym:#1-#3]{none} {\setupcombinations[width=11cm] \startcombination[2] {\hbox to 4.75 cm{\hss\externalfigure[sym-#1]\hss}} {#2} {\hbox to 4.75 cm{\hss\externalfigure[sym-#3]\hss}} {#4} \stopcombination} } %\clubpenalty=8500 % keine Schusterjungen %\widowpenalty=9000 % keine Hurenkinder %\appendtoks \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \to \everytabulate %\tolerance=1800 % --> setuptolerance %\emergencystretch=12 pt % --> setuptolerance \setuptolerance[horizontal, verytolerant] %, stretch ? \setuptolerance[vertical, verystrict] % no ideal settings found yet... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \starttext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \startbodymatter \SeiteOhne \input kap0-1-titelei \page[right] \SeiteInhalt \input kap0-2-vorwort \StartPart{Warum glauben wir?} Ein neuer Religionsbegriff \StopPart \input kap1-1-religionsbegriff \relax % some more parts with chapters \def\UPart#1#2{\tfd\it #2} \setuphead [part] [command=\UPart, style=\tfd\it, placehead=yes,frame=off]%, % number=no] \StartPart{Anhang} % appendix has no subtitle & mustn't be numbered! \StopPart \switchtobodyfont[8pt] \input anh1-organisation % etc. \relax\page % is additionally needed at some places. why? \input anh7-making \relax \chapter[register]{Personen- und Sachregister} \placeindex \stopbodymatter \stoptext --- Thank you very much! Grüßlis vom Hraban! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: last questions, urgent 2000-11-13 20:56 last questions, urgent Hraban 2000-11-14 6:17 ` Berend de Boer @ 2000-11-14 8:28 ` Hans Hagen 2000-11-14 18:11 ` Hraban 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-11-14 8:28 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ConTeXt At 09:56 PM 11/13/00 +0100, Hraban wrote: >- I need \nolist and \nomarking to hide parts of long chapter titles. >But the "..." in head and t.o.c. must disappear. How? (Sorry, I can't >understand the syntax of "geenlijst" and "geenmarkering" definition.) hm, configuring this is on the to do list, you may try: \bgroup \let\unknown\relax \placelist... \egroup and \setupheadertexts [{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}] [] there by killing the dots. A good alternative is to set maxwidth=.75\hsize to some dimension in lists and leftwidth=.5\hsize in setupheader and alike commands, which limits the length. We mostly use that one. >- I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool >is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to >insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem >of grid setting? What to do? see berends answer hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: last questions, urgent 2000-11-14 8:28 ` last questions, urgent Hans Hagen @ 2000-11-14 18:11 ` Hraban 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hraban @ 2000-11-14 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: [killing ellipses] > \bgroup > \let\unknown\relax > \placelist... > \egroup > \setupheadertexts [{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}] [] > there by killing the dots. A good alternative is to set Trying to understand... \unknown is the command that produces the ellipse ("...")? and this is set to the dummy command \relax instead of "..."? Why should I use grouping, if I want the ellipses eliminated for the whole book? Has \unknown more meanings? > maxwidth=.75\hsize > to some dimension in lists and > leftwidth=.5\hsize > in setupheader and alike commands, which limits the length. We mostly use > that one. That limits the width of the header text, right? How "knows" TeX then, where to cut? -- Normally I have something like: \subject{The ConTeXt project \nomarking{\nolist{and its heroes}} (1984--2001)} Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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