last questions, urgent

last questions, urgent

[Hraban]

Hello again!

End of this week "my" book goes to the printshop.
I could solve most probplems, most with your valuable help. Thank you!

But some remain, and I hope they can be solved quickly:

- I need \nolist and \nomarking to hide parts of long chapter titles.
But the "..." in head and t.o.c. must disappear. How? (Sorry, I can't
understand the syntax of "geenlijst" and "geenmarkering" definition.)

- I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool
is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to
insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem
of grid setting? What to do?

- after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry
in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed
it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition?

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html

Re: last questions, urgent

[Berend de Boer]

Hraban wrote:

> - I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool
> is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to
> insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem
> of grid setting? What to do?

You can also use

\adaptlayout
	[5]
	[width=+1cm]

or

\adaptlayout
	[3,9,12]
	[width=+0.5cm]

or something like that to make certain pages a bit smaller or larger.
Put this on top of your document. Probably preferred instead of changing
the document itself.

> - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry
> in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed
> it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition?

Yes please.

Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

Re: last questions, urgent

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:56 PM 11/13/00 +0100, Hraban wrote:

>- I need \nolist and \nomarking to hide parts of long chapter titles.
>But the "..." in head and t.o.c. must disappear. How? (Sorry, I can't
>understand the syntax of "geenlijst" and "geenmarkering" definition.)

hm, configuring this is on the to do list, you may try: 

\bgroup
\let\unknown\relax
\placelist...
\egroup

and 

\setupheadertexts [{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}] []

there by killing the dots. A good alternative is to set 

  maxwidth=.75\hsize

to some dimension in lists and 

  leftwidth=.5\hsize

in setupheader and alike commands, which limits the length. We mostly use
that one. 

>- I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool
>is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to
>insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem
>of grid setting? What to do?

see berends answer

hans

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Re: last questions, urgent

[Hraban]

Berend de Boer wrote:
> > - I try to clean some widows and orphants, but my only working tool
> > is "\page" -- \blank has no effect, even \blank[force]. (I tried to
> > insert additional blank lines before subject titles.) Maybe a problem
> > of grid setting? What to do?
> 
> You can also use
> \adaptlayout
> or something like that to make certain pages a bit smaller or larger.

Oh God, no! This is a serious book, no kindergarden! ;-)

I really only want to push (or "pull") some paragraphs one line
forward or backward!
I thought, \blank or \blank[back] should work, but they don't. That's all.

I couldn't find the right tolerance settings to prevent widows and orphants
as far as possible -- perhaps I might redefine the space before "subject"
to be a bit flexible, but I don't know how. (This would make redundant my
manual trickery.)

> > - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry
> > in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed
> > it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition?

see next mail
(I have to reboot for Linux first, my modem works only with MacOS...)

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
http://www.planet-interkom.de/fiee.visuelle/formelsammlung.html

Re: last questions, urgent

[Hraban]

Hans Hagen wrote:

[killing ellipses]
> \bgroup
> \let\unknown\relax
> \placelist...
> \egroup

> \setupheadertexts [{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}] []
> there by killing the dots. A good alternative is to set

Trying to understand...
\unknown is the command that produces the ellipse ("...")?
and this is set to the dummy command \relax instead of "..."?

Why should I use grouping, if I want the ellipses eliminated
for the whole book? Has \unknown more meanings?

>   maxwidth=.75\hsize
> to some dimension in lists and
>   leftwidth=.5\hsize
> in setupheader and alike commands, which limits the length. We mostly use
> that one.

That limits the width of the header text, right?
How "knows" TeX then, where to cut? -- Normally I have something like:
\subject{The ConTeXt project \nomarking{\nolist{and its heroes}} (1984--2001)}

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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lost part header et al (was: last questions)

[Hraban]

> > - after redefining my complex part start pages, there's no part entry
> > in my headers any more. (The old version used standardmakeup. I changed
> > it to \page[right] etc.) Should I mail my whole definition?
> Yes please.

Thank you for your patience! If you find something other
that I could improve, please tell me! (I wrote some more 
questions between)

---
%interface=en response=de tex=pdfetex output=pdf language=de
%
\mainlanguage		[deo] % hyphenation patterns seem to be de-new! why?
\useencoding		[fde]
\definepapersize	[UBuch][width=14cm,height=21cm]
\setuppapersize	[UBuch][UBuch]

\setuplayout		[width=11cm,height=17cm,
				header=14pt,headerdistance=10pt,
				footer=14pt,footerdistance=10pt, backspace=10mm,
				grid=yes, marking=off, location=center]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,
				way=bytext, sectionnumber=no, partnumber=no]

\def\SeiteInhalt{
\setuppagenumbering	[location={footer,marginedge}]
%
% the chapter thing works, part is empty!
\setupheadertexts	[][{\let\unknown\relax\getmarking[chapter]}][part][]
\setupbackgrounds	[header][text][frame=off,bottomframe=on] 
\setupbackgrounds	[rightpage][background=]
}

\def\SeiteOhne{
\setupbackgrounds	[rightpage][background=]
\setupbackgrounds	[header][text][bottomframe=off]
\setuppagenumbering	[location={}]
}

% Hintergrundbild f"ur Part
\useexternalfigure[hintergrund][part][width=15cm]
\defineoverlay[titelbild][{\externalfigure[hintergrund]}]

\def\SeitePart{
\setuppagenumbering	[location={}]
\page			[right]
\setupbackgrounds	[rightpage][background=titelbild]
\setupbackgrounds	[header][text][bottomframe=off]
} % wird in kap0-0-titelei verwendet

\setupbodyfont	[ber,ppl,10pt]
\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]	% slanted is ugly!

\setupindenting 	[12pt] % why not the same for itemize?
\setupnarrower	[left=12pt, right=0pt, before={\noindent}, after={}]

% conversion=set 3 causes strange errors!
\setupfootnotes	[way=bypage, rule=off]

% special part title

\def\UPart#1#2%
  {\tfd\it #1: #2}

\def\StartPart#1%
	{\bgroup
	\page[right]
	\setuppagenumbering[location={}]
	\setupbackgrounds[rightpage][background=titelbild]
	\setupbackgrounds	[header][text][bottomframe=off]
	\part{#1}
	\vfill
	\tfb\setupinterlinespace[big]}

\def\StopPart%
	{\par\vfill\vfill
	\page[right]
	\SeiteInhalt % see above
	\egroup
	\relax}

% HEADERS
\setupheads	[align=right,tolerance=verytolerant]
\setuphead	[part]
			[command=\UPart,
			style=\tfd\it,
			placehead=yes,
			number=yes, pagenumber=no]
\setuphead	[chapter]
			[style=\tfc\it, number=no, page=yes, align=right]
% page=yes doesn't work everywhere!!
\setuphead	[title]
			[style=\tfc\it, page=yes, placehead=yes, 
			align=right, after={\blank}]
\setuphead	[subject]
			[style=\tfb\it, align=right] 
\setuphead	[subsubject]
			[style=\tfa\it, align=right, before={\blank}, after={}]

% special headers for one chapter
\def\subtitel#1#2{\subject{\NurLang{\tfx\it#1\crlf}#2}}

% TABLE OF CONTENTS
\definelist	[part]
\setuplist	[part]
			[style={\bf\it}, partnumber=no, before={\blank}]
\definelist	[chapter]
\setuplist	[chapter]
			[alternative=b, partnumber=no, interaction=pagenumber]
\definecombinedlist[inhalt]
			[part,chapter]
			[level=chapter, placehead=yes, criterium=all,
			interaction=pagenumber,
			style=\tfc\it, alternative=b]

% for parts of titles that shouldn't appear in lists and page headers
\def\NurLang#1{\nomarking{\nolist{#1}}}
\def\NLLF{\NurLang{\crlf}}

% F"ur die einfachen F"alle: Wort gleichzeitig in Text und Index
\def\Tindex#1{\index{#1} #1}

\setupfloats	[width=11cm] % seems to have no effect?
\setupcaptions[number=no, align=right] % dito
\setuptables	[width=11cm, bodyfont=small, before=\nohyphen, after={}]
\setupregister[index]
			[partnumber=no,criterium=all,
			balance=yes, style=\tfa\cap] % style undocumented, but works

% ENVIRONMENTS
\definestartstop
	[anmerkung]
	[before={\startlinecorrection\vbox\bgroup
	\switchtobodyfont[small]\setupinterlinespace[small]\noindent},
	after={\egroup\stoplinecorrection\relax}]
\definestartstop
	[verse]
	[before={\blank\setuplines[indenting=always]
	\startalignment[right]\startlines\startnarrower},
	after={\stopnarrower\stoplines\stopalignment\blank}]
\definestartstop
	[autor]
	[before={\startalignment[left]\it\noindent},
	after={\stopalignment}]
\def\Autor#1#2{\page[no]\startautor \index{#2}#1\stopautor\relax}

\unprotect % richtige Anf"uhrungszeichen
\definesymbol
	[beginquotation]
	[\getvalue{\??la\currentlanguage\c!leftquotation}]
\definesymbol
	[endquotation]
	[\getvalue{\??la\currentlanguage\c!rightquotation}]	
\protect

\definestartstop % like start/stopquotation
	[zitat]	
	[before={\startnarrower\noindent\symbol[beginquotation]},
	after={\symbol[endquotation]\stopnarrower}]

\def\StartZitat{\par\startnarrower\noindent\symbol[beginquotation]}
\def\StopZitat#1{\symbol[endquotation]\footnote{#1}\stopnarrower\par}

% FIGURES
\def\ZweiSym#1#2#3#4% not enough space over figures!
  {\par\vfill\blank\placefigure[][sym:#1-#3]{none}
     {\setupcombinations[width=11cm]
      \startcombination[2]
          {\hbox to 4.75 cm{\hss\externalfigure[sym-#1]\hss}} {#2}
          {\hbox to 4.75 cm{\hss\externalfigure[sym-#3]\hss}} {#4}
      \stopcombination}
  }

%\clubpenalty=8500 % keine Schusterjungen
%\widowpenalty=9000 % keine Hurenkinder
%\appendtoks \widowpenalty=0 \clubpenalty=0 \to \everytabulate
%\tolerance=1800 % --> setuptolerance
%\emergencystretch=12 pt % --> setuptolerance
\setuptolerance[horizontal, verytolerant] %, stretch ?
\setuptolerance[vertical, verystrict]
% no ideal settings found yet...

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 
\starttext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\startbodymatter
\SeiteOhne    
\input kap0-1-titelei

\page[right]
\SeiteInhalt
\input kap0-2-vorwort

\StartPart{Warum glauben wir?}
Ein neuer Religionsbegriff
\StopPart
\input kap1-1-religionsbegriff
\relax

% some more parts with chapters

\def\UPart#1#2{\tfd\it #2}
\setuphead	[part]
		[command=\UPart, style=\tfd\it,
		placehead=yes,frame=off]%,
%		number=no]
\StartPart{Anhang} % appendix has no subtitle & mustn't be numbered!
\StopPart
\switchtobodyfont[8pt]
\input anh1-organisation
% etc.
\relax\page % is additionally needed at some places. why?
\input anh7-making
\relax
\chapter[register]{Personen- und Sachregister}
\placeindex

\stopbodymatter
\stoptext

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Thank you very much!

Grüßlis vom Hraban!

Re: last questions, urgent

[Hans Hagen]

At 06:57 PM 11/14/00 +0100, you wrote:

>I really only want to push (or "pull") some paragraphs one line
>forward or backward!
>I thought, \blank or \blank[back] should work, but they don't. That's all.

they should, but two blanks is \blank[2*big] and not \blank \blank, since
blank cancels previous smaller/equal ones. 

 Hans
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