Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[john Culleton]

Returning after a long absence...

Downloaded a fistful of manuals, concentrating on MKIV. One of
these lists commands, and is dated 2012 which is promising. Many
of these commands are not included in "Context, The Manual". So
is there a manual or guide (or multiples) that expains these new
commands?

Let me put it a different way. If a person familiar with TeX but
not Context wanted  to use MKIV what documents beyond "Context
the Manual" would that person need to understand and use Context
for ordinary documents (like a book on another software project)?

I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform.
-- 
John Culleton

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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2012-07-15 um 22:04 schrieb john Culleton:

> I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform.

If you’re serious about MkIV, install TeX Live 2012 or use Standalone.  
(If you don’t need LaTeX, the latter is enough.)



Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Rogers, Michael K]

I'm familiar with TeX, not with LaTeX, and started ConTeXt last December.  Here are what I've found most useful:

1. In my TeXLive 2011, there is texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/context/manuals/reference/en/contextref.pdf, dated July 2011 and unfinished.  (The change to MKIV is immense and has outpaced the documentation.)

2. There is the wiki, which has some more current information about commands as well as gaps: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page

3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful comments in it.  The explanation of the system macros, http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about.

4. This mailing list.

Aside from these, some things particularly related to my interests (tables, XML) have been helpful.  If you're interested in using MetaPost for graphics, there's John Hobby's MetaPost manual and Hans Hagen's ConTeXt-related Metafun manual (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Metapost).  If you're interested in using Lua, see the LuaTeX manual and ConTeXt interface to Lua (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lua) as well as the Lua manual (lua.org).

Hope that helps,

Michael

On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:04 PM, john Culleton wrote:

> Returning after a long absence...
>
> Downloaded a fistful of manuals, concentrating on MKIV. One of
> these lists commands, and is dated 2012 which is promising. Many
> of these commands are not included in "Context, The Manual". So
> is there a manual or guide (or multiples) that expains these new
> commands?
>
> Let me put it a different way. If a person familiar with TeX but
> not Context wanted  to use MKIV what documents beyond "Context
> the Manual" would that person need to understand and use Context
> for ordinary documents (like a book on another software project)?
>
> I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform.
> --
> John Culleton
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________________________


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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[john Culleton]

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:00 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote:

> Am 2012-07-15 um 22:04 schrieb john Culleton:
> 
> > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform.
> 
> If you___re serious about MkIV, install TeX Live 2012 or use
> Standalone. (If you don___t need LaTeX, the latter is enough.)
> 
> 
> 
> Greetlings, Hraban
> ---
> http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
> 
>
Thanks! I found it easier to install TeXLive  2012 (more familiar.)
The standalone.zip had some problems. I note from another post that
there is an incomplete but more current manual. So I will print
that out. The texlive 2012 is dated July 7 so I hope that the
Context is up to date or close to it. My main concern is as
always fonts.

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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Philipp Gesang]

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> 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful
> comments in it.  The explanation of the system macros,
> http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful
> in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about.

Fwiw Taco’s “System Macros” is part of the wiki as well:
<http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros>. As it was written
with MkII in mind, you might want to check the definitions in
syst-aux.mkiv in your /context/base/ directory if they are
still around and, if applicable, what their replacement is (\@EA
and family come to my mind that have been purged from MkIV).

Regards
Philipp

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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Aditya Mahajan]

> The standalone.zip had some problems.

ConTeXt Standalone (or is it now ConTeXt Suite?) now refers to what was 
ConTeXt minimals.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone

There is no standalone.zip; so perhaps you tried the old standalone 
distributed by Hans.

Aditya
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Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV

[Rogers, Michael K]

On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote:

> ···<date: 2012-07-16, Monday>···<from: Rogers, Michael K>···
>
>> 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful
>> comments in it.  The explanation of the system macros,
>> http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful
>> in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about.
>
> Fwiw Taco’s “System Macros” is part of the wiki as well:
> <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros>. As it was written
> with MkII in mind, you might want to check the definitions in
> syst-aux.mkiv in your /context/base/ directory if they are
> still around and, if applicable, what their replacement is (\@EA
> and family come to my mind that have been purged from MkIV).
>
> Regards
> Philipp

Thanks for the tip.

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