Getting property values

Getting property values

[Olya Briginets]

Hello ConTeXt gurus,

I use the following simple command for debugging purposes:

  \def\thevalue#1#2#3{\csname @@#1#2#3\endcsname}

but maybe there exists a more advanced interface?

Olya

Re: Getting property values

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:40 AM 9/10/2001 +0300, Olya Briginets wrote:
>Hello ConTeXt gurus,
>
>I use the following simple command for debugging purposes:
>
>   \def\thevalue#1#2#3{\csname @@#1#2#3\endcsname}
>
>but maybe there exists a more advanced interface?

thos is probably ok for your purpose, although it depends a bit on what you 
want to show but in most cases this is ok, but keep in mind that low level 
deep down is dutch [still, but it's slowly changing]

\unprotected \def\thevalue#1#2%
   {\csname @@#1\csname\k!prefix!#2\endcsname\endcsname}

is also a way to handle it, in which case the interface is the current one,

why do you need this?

Hans
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Re: Getting property values (and problem defining accents)

[Olya Briginets]

Hello Hans,

Hans Hagen wrote:

> >I use the following simple command for debugging purposes:
> >
> >   \def\thevalue#1#2#3{\csname @@#1#2#3\endcsname}
> >
> >but maybe there exists a more advanced interface?
> 
> thos is probably ok for your purpose, although it depends a bit on what you
> want to show but in most cases this is ok, but keep in mind that low level
> deep down is dutch [still, but it's slowly changing]
> 
> \unprotected \def\thevalue#1#2%
>    {\csname @@#1\csname\k!prefix!#2\endcsname\endcsname}
> 
> is also a way to handle it, in which case the interface is the current one,
> 
> why do you need this?

I used it to check some values like  \thevalue{la}{ua}{status} or
\thevalue{la}{ua}{encoding}  to ensure that language is installed properly,
because I had troubles defining some characters.

Specifically, I have a problem defining accented glyphs. I try to use
\defineaccent command:

  \defineaccent " {\cyrillicE} {\cyrillicYO}

But this works only if one writes exactly \"\cyrillicE, which does not make
sense, as symbols are usually entered as 8bit (via different regimes).
Analogously, the example from enco-ini:

  \defineaccent ' {\dotlessi} 237

works if used as \'\dotlessi, not as \'\i. But \dotlessi is usually inputed as
\i, which is the intended way to use it? 
Is there a way to \defineindirectaccent or something alike, which will expand
the next token?

Olya

PS. I hope to send some working support of russian and ukrainian languages in
couple of days.

Re: Getting property values (and problem defining accents)

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:01 AM 9/13/2001 +0300, Olya Briginets wrote:

>   \defineaccent " {\cyrillicE} {\cyrillicYO}
>
>But this works only if one writes exactly \"\cyrillicE, which does not make
>sense, as symbols are usually entered as 8bit (via different regimes).
>Analogously, the example from enco-ini:
>
>   \defineaccent ' {\dotlessi} 237
>
>works if used as \'\dotlessi, not as \'\i. But \dotlessi is usually inputed as
>\i, which is the intended way to use it?
>Is there a way to \defineindirectaccent or something alike, which will expand
>the next token?

do you think that \"\cyrrilicE will be used in an 8 bit environment?

it is not so much problem to define something that works, but how obscure 
will docs then get?

let's look into it when you got the basics running

Hans
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