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Hello Hans,

Hans Hagen wrote:

> >I use the following simple command for debugging purposes:
> >
> >   \def\thevalue#1#2#3{\csname @@#1#2#3\endcsname}
> >
> >but maybe there exists a more advanced interface?
> 
> thos is probably ok for your purpose, although it depends a bit on what you
> want to show but in most cases this is ok, but keep in mind that low level
> deep down is dutch [still, but it's slowly changing]
> 
> \unprotected \def\thevalue#1#2%
>    {\csname @@#1\csname\k!prefix!#2\endcsname\endcsname}
> 
> is also a way to handle it, in which case the interface is the current one,
> 
> why do you need this?

I used it to check some values like  \thevalue{la}{ua}{status} or
\thevalue{la}{ua}{encoding}  to ensure that language is installed properly,
because I had troubles defining some characters.

Specifically, I have a problem defining accented glyphs. I try to use
\defineaccent command:

  \defineaccent " {\cyrillicE} {\cyrillicYO}

But this works only if one writes exactly \"\cyrillicE, which does not make
sense, as symbols are usually entered as 8bit (via different regimes).
Analogously, the example from enco-ini:

  \defineaccent ' {\dotlessi} 237

works if used as \'\dotlessi, not as \'\i. But \dotlessi is usually inputed as
\i, which is the intended way to use it? 
Is there a way to \defineindirectaccent or something alike, which will expand
the next token?

Olya

PS. I hope to send some working support of russian and ukrainian languages in
couple of days.