error message query

error message query

[Alan Bowen]

It appears that the problem is my definition

\def\ {|~|}

Though this definition works in a simple test file, it apparently  
conflicts with something in my environment file and produces the error  
message reported previously. So, is there a “safer” way to define  
\<space> as {|~|}?

Alan
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Re: error message query

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

> It appears that the problem is my definition
>
> \def\ {|~|}
>
> Though this definition works in a simple test file, it apparently
> conflicts with something in my environment file and produces the error
> message reported previously. So, is there a “safer” way to define
> \<space> as {|~|}?
>
> Alan

Since you seem to be using Greek in your file: both | and ~ are made  
inactive in the Greek environment, so if you use '\ ' within Greek  
stuff, you're running into trouble. I don't see a solution within mkii  
if you want the nonbreakable space.

Thomas
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Re: error message query

[Alan Bowen]

Thomas—

The problem seems limited to one of my environments. With the one for  
the journal, MKII and \def\ {|~|} work when the Greek module is loaded  
and when real Greek is set. In short, the changes made in your Greek  
module seem happily restricted to text in \localgreek{...} and so on.

I am at a loss to see how \def\ {|~|} collides with the many macros in  
the problem environment right now, hence my query about a cleverer way  
to make the definition.

By the way, I use |~| to reduce stretch and to get the right spacing  
after any period within a sentence. It’s unbreakability is an  
undesirable side effect. (The string A.|~\E|~|Samuel”, for example,  
breaks with a hyphen as in  “A. E.-” which is certainly not good.)  
Apparently, we have lost the functionality of the old “\ ” when 
\mainlanguage[en].

Cheers, Alan

On Sep 3, 2008, at 17;44,35 , Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

>
> On Sep 3, 2008, at 9:48 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> It appears that the problem is my definition
>>
>> \def\ {|~|}
>>
>> Though this definition works in a simple test file, it apparently
>> conflicts with something in my environment file and produces the  
>> error
>> message reported previously. So, is there a “safer” way to define
>> \<space> as {|~|}?
>>
>> Alan
>
> Since you seem to be using Greek in your file: both | and ~ are made
> inactive in the Greek environment, so if you use '\ ' within Greek
> stuff, you're running into trouble. I don't see a solution within mkii
> if you want the nonbreakable space.
>
> Thomas
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Re: error message query

[Wolfgang Schuster]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:
> It appears that the problem is my definition
>
> \def\ {|~|}
>
> Though this definition works in a simple test file, it apparently
> conflicts with something in my environment file and produces the error
> message reported previously. So, is there a "safer" way to define
> \<space> as {|~|}?

\def\ {\thinspace}

Wolfgang
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Re: error message query

[Alan Bowen]

Thanks, Wolfgang. That is just what I needed: it works in all my  
environments and looks good in the output. As for line breaking, it  
can produce an overfull \hbox but that is very easily seen and repaired.

Best, Alan

On Sep 4, 2008, at 04;39,32 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>  
> wrote:
>> It appears that the problem is my definition
>>
>> \def\ {|~|}
>>
>> Though this definition works in a simple test file, it apparently
>> conflicts with something in my environment file and produces the  
>> error
>> message reported previously. So, is there a "safer" way to define
>> \<space> as {|~|}?
>
> \def\ {\thinspace}
>
> Wolfgang
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