* emp.sty and metapost
@ 2006-06-28 4:00 David Arnold
2006-06-28 4:23 ` Aditya Mahajan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 4:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
All,
Not strictly a context question, but it has to do with Metapost, so
maybe someone can help.
I have a file of macros called qdftools.mp:
numeric s; s=0.2;
color gridlines; gridlines:=(s,s,s);
def openbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def openreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor red;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor blue;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def vtick(expr pos)=
draw ((0,-3)--(0,3)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def htick(expr pos)=
draw ((-3,0)--(3,0)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def gridfivefive =
for k=-5u step 1u until 5u:
draw (-5u,k)--(5u,k) withcolor gridlines;
draw (k,-5u)--(k,5u) withcolor gridlines;
endfor;
enddef;
def xyaxesfivefive=
drawdblarrow (-5u,0)--(5u,0);
label.rt(btex $x$ etex, (5u,0));
label.bot(btex $5$ etex, (5u,0));
drawdblarrow (0,-5u)--(0,5u);
label.top(btex $y$ etex, (0,5u));
label.lft(btex $5$ etex, (0,5u));
enddef;
endinput;
In the same directory as qdftools.mp, I have a file useemp.tex. Note
that I am using the emp package.
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{emp,ifpdf}
\ifpdf
\DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}
\fi
\setlength{\unitlength}{1cm}
\begin{document}
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
\empprelude{input qdftools}
\begin{empfile}
\begin{empdef}[david](4,4)
numeric u; 10u=3in;
gridfivefive;
xyaxesfivefive;
\end{empdef}
\end{empfile}
\immediate\write18{mpost \jobname}
\empuse{david}
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
\end{document}
Now, here is what I fail to understand. If I compile useemp.tex with:
pdflatex --shell-escape useemp
Then all is well. I get a nice pdf file.
However, if I change one line in the file useemp.tex, namely
\immediate\write18{mpost \jobname}
to:
\immediate\write18{mpost -tex=latex \jobname}
Then if I remove the file qdftools.mpx and compile useemp.tex with:
pdflatex --shell-escape useemp
Then I get:
loading : Context Support Macros / PDF (2004.03.26)
)This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>> qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.41 label.rt(btex
$x$ etex, (5u,0));
Transcript written on useemp.log.
Can anyone tell how to work around this problem? I know Context has
much better support for labels, but I need to write this in Latex for
our online testing system. http://scinux.redwoods.edu/cgi-bin/
online_s06/testing.cgi/
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 4:00 emp.sty and metapost David Arnold
@ 2006-06-28 4:23 ` Aditya Mahajan
2006-06-28 6:06 ` David Arnold
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-06-28 4:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, David Arnold wrote:
> All,
>
> Not strictly a context question, but it has to do with Metapost, so
> maybe someone can help.
>
> I have a file of macros called qdftools.mp:
>
> numeric s; s=0.2;
> color gridlines; gridlines:=(s,s,s);
>
> def openbluedot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
> enddef;
>
> def openreddot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
> enddef;
>
> def filledreddot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor red;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
> enddef;
>
> def filledbluedot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor blue;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
> enddef;
>
> def vtick(expr pos)=
> draw ((0,-3)--(0,3)) shifted pos;
> enddef;
>
> def htick(expr pos)=
> draw ((-3,0)--(3,0)) shifted pos;
> enddef;
>
> def gridfivefive =
> for k=-5u step 1u until 5u:
> draw (-5u,k)--(5u,k) withcolor gridlines;
> draw (k,-5u)--(k,5u) withcolor gridlines;
> endfor;
> enddef;
>
> def xyaxesfivefive=
> drawdblarrow (-5u,0)--(5u,0);
> label.rt(btex $x$ etex, (5u,0));
> label.bot(btex $5$ etex, (5u,0));
> drawdblarrow (0,-5u)--(0,5u);
> label.top(btex $y$ etex, (0,5u));
> label.lft(btex $5$ etex, (0,5u));
> enddef;
>
> endinput;
>
> In the same directory as qdftools.mp, I have a file useemp.tex. Note
> that I am using the emp package.
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{amsmath}
> \usepackage{emp,ifpdf}
>
> \ifpdf
> \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}
> \fi
>
> \setlength{\unitlength}{1cm}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
>
> \empprelude{input qdftools}
>
> \begin{empfile}
> \begin{empdef}[david](4,4)
> numeric u; 10u=3in;
> gridfivefive;
> xyaxesfivefive;
> \end{empdef}
> \end{empfile}
>
> \immediate\write18{mpost \jobname}
>
> \empuse{david}
>
> Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
>
> \end{document}
>
> Now, here is what I fail to understand. If I compile useemp.tex with:
>
> pdflatex --shell-escape useemp
>
> Then all is well. I get a nice pdf file.
>
> However, if I change one line in the file useemp.tex, namely
>
> \immediate\write18{mpost \jobname}
>
> to:
>
> \immediate\write18{mpost -tex=latex \jobname}
>
> Then if I remove the file qdftools.mpx and compile useemp.tex with:
>
> pdflatex --shell-escape useemp
>
> Then I get:
>
> loading : Context Support Macros / PDF (2004.03.26)
> )This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
> (useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
> failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>
> >> qdftools.mp
> >> qdftools.mpx
> ! Unable to make mpx file.
> l.41 label.rt(btex
> $x$ etex, (5u,0));
> Transcript written on useemp.log.
>
> Can anyone tell how to work around this problem? I know Context has
> much better support for labels, but I need to write this in Latex for
> our online testing system. http://scinux.redwoods.edu/cgi-bin/
> online_s06/testing.cgi/
I have faced this problem in the past, but was never sure why it
occured or how to rectify it. Try the command
mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
on your shell. Do you get the same error message as before (you
should). Now try,
makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
Does this create an mpx file? If it does, then atleast a workaround
for the problem is to have
\immediate\write18{makempx --tex=latex \jobname.mp \jobname.mpx}
before
\immediate\write18{mpost --tex=latex \jobname}.
If makempx fails, look at the output of
makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
What do you get?
Aditya
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 4:23 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2006-06-28 6:06 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 14:08 ` Aditya Mahajan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 6:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Aditya,
> I have faced this problem in the past, but was never sure why it
> occured or how to rectify it. Try the command
>
> mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>
> on your shell. Do you get the same error message as before (you
> should).
Yes, same error message.
qdf $ mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>> qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.41 label.rt(btex
$x$ etex, (5u,0));
Transcript written on useemp.log.
> Now try,
>
> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>
> Does this create an mpx file?
qdf $ ls
OTqdbpreview.sty dev.qdf sample2.qdf
dev.1 dev.tex useemp.mp
dev.mp functions.qdf useemp.pdf
dev.pdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
qdf $
qdf $ makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
newer: target file `useemp.mpx' doesn't exist.
dvitomp: mpx14741.dvi: No such file or directory
mv: rename mpx14741.dvi to mpxerr.dvi: No such file or directory
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
failed: dvitomp mpxerr.dvi useemp.mpx
qdf $ ls
OTqdbpreview.sty functions.qdf sample2.qdf
dev.1 mpx14741.aux useemp.mp
dev.mp mpx14741.log useemp.pdf
dev.pdf mpx14741.tex useemp.tex
dev.qdf mpxerr.log
dev.tex qdftools.mp
Doesn't look like it.
> If it does, then atleast a workaround
> for the problem is to have
>
> \immediate\write18{makempx --tex=latex \jobname.mp \jobname.mpx}
> before
> \immediate\write18{mpost --tex=latex \jobname}.
>
> If makempx fails, look at the output of
>
> makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>
> What do you get?
qdf $ makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Invalid
option: --verbose.
Try `makempx --help' for more information.
qdf $ makempx --help
Usage: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx [-
tex|-tex=<program>|-troff] MPFILE MPXFILE.
If MPXFILE is older than MPFILE, translate the labels from the
MetaPost
input file MPFIle to low-level commands in MPXFILE, by running
mpto -tex, , and dvitomp
by default; or, if -troff is specified,
mpto -troff, eqn -Tps -d\$\$ | troff -Tps, and dmp.
The current directory is used for writing temporary files. Errors
are
left in mpxerr.{tex,log,dvi}.
If the file named in $MPTEXPRE (mptexpre.tex by default) exists,
it is
prepended to the output in tex mode.
Email bug reports to metapost@tug.org.
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 6:06 ` David Arnold
@ 2006-06-28 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
2006-06-28 15:24 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 14:08 ` Aditya Mahajan
1 sibling, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-06-28 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Arnold wrote:
>>
>>makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>
>>Does this create an mpx file?
What happens if you run the bare command 'latex'
on a simple test file?
Taco
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2006-06-28 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
2006-06-28 15:27 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 15:24 ` David Arnold
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2006-06-28 7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> David Arnold wrote:
>
>>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>
>>> Does this create an mpx file?
>>>
>
> What happens if you run the bare command 'latex'
> on a simple test file?
>
there's also
mptopdf useemp.mp
or (more clever):
texexec --mpgraphic useemp.mp
(latest version)
Hans
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 6:06 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2006-06-28 14:08 ` Aditya Mahajan
2006-06-28 15:37 ` David Arnold
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-06-28 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, David Arnold wrote:
> Aditya,
>
>
>> I have faced this problem in the past, but was never sure why it
>> occured or how to rectify it. Try the command
>>
>> mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>>
>> on your shell. Do you get the same error message as before (you
>> should).
>
> Yes, same error message.
>
> qdf $ mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
> This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
> (useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
> failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>
> >> qdftools.mp
> >> qdftools.mpx
> ! Unable to make mpx file.
> l.41 label.rt(btex
> $x$ etex, (5u,0));
> Transcript written on useemp.log.
>
>
>> Now try,
>>
>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>
>> Does this create an mpx file?
>
> qdf $ ls
> OTqdbpreview.sty dev.qdf sample2.qdf
> dev.1 dev.tex useemp.mp
> dev.mp functions.qdf useemp.pdf
> dev.pdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
> qdf $
>
> qdf $ makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
> newer: target file `useemp.mpx' doesn't exist.
> dvitomp: mpx14741.dvi: No such file or directory
> mv: rename mpx14741.dvi to mpxerr.dvi: No such file or directory
> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
> failed: dvitomp mpxerr.dvi useemp.mpx
>
> qdf $ ls
> OTqdbpreview.sty functions.qdf sample2.qdf
> dev.1 mpx14741.aux useemp.mp
> dev.mp mpx14741.log useemp.pdf
> dev.pdf mpx14741.tex useemp.tex
> dev.qdf mpxerr.log
> dev.tex qdftools.mp
>
> Doesn't look like it.
>
>> If it does, then atleast a workaround
>> for the problem is to have
>>
>> \immediate\write18{makempx --tex=latex \jobname.mp \jobname.mpx}
>> before
>> \immediate\write18{mpost --tex=latex \jobname}.
>>
>> If makempx fails, look at the output of
>>
>> makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>
>> What do you get?
>
>
> qdf $ makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Invalid
> option: --verbose.
> Try `makempx --help' for more information.
>
>
> qdf $ makempx --help
> Usage: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx [-
> tex|-tex=<program>|-troff] MPFILE MPXFILE.
> If MPXFILE is older than MPFILE, translate the labels from the
> MetaPost
> input file MPFIle to low-level commands in MPXFILE, by running
> mpto -tex, , and dvitomp
> by default; or, if -troff is specified,
> mpto -troff, eqn -Tps -d\$\$ | troff -Tps, and dmp.
>
> The current directory is used for writing temporary files. Errors
> are
> left in mpxerr.{tex,log,dvi}.
>
> If the file named in $MPTEXPRE (mptexpre.tex by default) exists,
> it is
> prepended to the output in tex mode.
Hmm... the makempx that comes with miktex has --verbose, the one that
comes with context standalone does not. So, you seem to have one from
context.
How about following makempx commands "by hand" that is,
mpto useemp.mp
This should strip out everything between btex ... etex into some tex
commands. If this works,
mpto useemp.mp > temp.tex
Any non-existing filename instead of "temp" will do. Then do,
latex temp.tex
dvitomp temp.mp useemp.mpx
and if all of these work without any error, do
mpost useemp
If possible, use Context to create the graphics, i.e.
texexec --mptex useemp.mp
to get mps files (.1, .2, etc) or
texexec --mpgraphic useemp.mp
pdf2ps useemp.pdf
If however, you need to stick to latex for some reason, you need to
figure out what is going wrong with your system.
Aditya
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 7:07 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2006-06-28 15:24 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 16:04 ` Taco Hoekwater
1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
Taco,
Not sure what you mean here, so I ran:
latex useemp.tex
And got:
No file useemp.aux.
emp: File useemp.1 not found:
emp: Process useemp.mp with MetaPost and then reprocess this file.
[1] (./useemp.aux) )
Output written on useemp.dvi (1 page, 400 bytes).
Transcript written on useemp.log.
On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> David Arnold wrote:
>>>
>>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>
>>> Does this create an mpx file?
>
> What happens if you run the bare command 'latex'
> on a simple test file?
>
> Taco
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 7:17 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2006-06-28 15:27 ` David Arnold
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans,
On Jun 28, 2006, at 12:17 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> David Arnold wrote:
>>
>>>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>>
>>>> Does this create an mpx file?
>>>>
>>
>> What happens if you run the bare command 'latex'
>> on a simple test file?
>>
> there's also
>
> mptopdf useemp.mp
qdf $ mptopdf useemp.mp
MPtoPDF 1.3.2 : running 'texexec --mptex '
TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
metapost : useemp
format : metafun
This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)
(useemp.mp (qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.41 label.rt(btex
$x$ etex, (5u,0));
Transcript written on useemp.log.
error in metapost run : useemp.mp:41
total run time : 0 seconds
warning : use 'texmfstart texexec' instead
MPtoPDF 1.3.2 : error while processing mp file
>
> or (more clever):
>
> texexec --mpgraphic useemp.mp
>
> (latest version)
qdf $ texexec --mpgraphics useemp.mp
TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
fixing engine variable : pdfetex
executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
inputfile : useemp
output : standard
interface : en
current mode : none
TeX run : 1
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./useemp.mp
ConTeXt ver: 2006.06.23 20:39 fmt: 2006.6.27 int: english mes:
english
language : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color : palette rollover is available
)
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
language : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3 de-
>texnansi:tex
nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 fr-
>ec:ec->6->2:3
es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3 it-
>texnansi
:texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3
nl->ec:ec-
>13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16-
>2:3 sk->ec:ec
->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3
loaded
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : useemp.top loaded
(./useemp.top)
systems : system commands are disabled
! Undefined control sequence.
l.3 \documentclass
[10pt]{article}
?
>
> Hans
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 14:08 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2006-06-28 15:37 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 15:47 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 18:37 ` Aditya Mahajan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Aditya,
On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, David Arnold wrote:
>
>> Aditya,
>>
>>
>>> I have faced this problem in the past, but was never sure why it
>>> occured or how to rectify it. Try the command
>>>
>>> mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>>>
>>> on your shell. Do you get the same error message as before (you
>>> should).
>>
>> Yes, same error message.
>>
>> qdf $ mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>> This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
>> (useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't
>> exist.
>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
>> failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>>
>>>> qdftools.mp
>>>> qdftools.mpx
>> ! Unable to make mpx file.
>> l.41 label.rt(btex
>> $x$ etex, (5u,0));
>> Transcript written on useemp.log.
>>
>>
>>> Now try,
>>>
>>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>
>>> Does this create an mpx file?
>>
>> qdf $ ls
>> OTqdbpreview.sty dev.qdf sample2.qdf
>> dev.1 dev.tex useemp.mp
>> dev.mp functions.qdf useemp.pdf
>> dev.pdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
>> qdf $
>>
>> qdf $ makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>> newer: target file `useemp.mpx' doesn't exist.
>> dvitomp: mpx14741.dvi: No such file or directory
>> mv: rename mpx14741.dvi to mpxerr.dvi: No such file or directory
>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
>> failed: dvitomp mpxerr.dvi useemp.mpx
>>
>> qdf $ ls
>> OTqdbpreview.sty functions.qdf sample2.qdf
>> dev.1 mpx14741.aux useemp.mp
>> dev.mp mpx14741.log useemp.pdf
>> dev.pdf mpx14741.tex useemp.tex
>> dev.qdf mpxerr.log
>> dev.tex qdftools.mp
>>
>> Doesn't look like it.
>>
>>> If it does, then atleast a workaround
>>> for the problem is to have
>>>
>>> \immediate\write18{makempx --tex=latex \jobname.mp \jobname.mpx}
>>> before
>>> \immediate\write18{mpost --tex=latex \jobname}.
>>>
>>> If makempx fails, look at the output of
>>>
>>> makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>
>>> What do you get?
>>
>>
>> qdf $ makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Invalid
>> option: --verbose.
>> Try `makempx --help' for more information.
>>
>>
>> qdf $ makempx --help
>> Usage: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx [-
>> tex|-tex=<program>|-troff] MPFILE MPXFILE.
>> If MPXFILE is older than MPFILE, translate the labels from the
>> MetaPost
>> input file MPFIle to low-level commands in MPXFILE, by running
>> mpto -tex, , and dvitomp
>> by default; or, if -troff is specified,
>> mpto -troff, eqn -Tps -d\$\$ | troff -Tps, and dmp.
>>
>> The current directory is used for writing temporary files. Errors
>> are
>> left in mpxerr.{tex,log,dvi}.
>>
>> If the file named in $MPTEXPRE (mptexpre.tex by default) exists,
>> it is
>> prepended to the output in tex mode.
>
> Hmm... the makempx that comes with miktex has --verbose, the one that
> comes with context standalone does not. So, you seem to have one from
> context.
>
> How about following makempx commands "by hand" that is,
>
> mpto useemp.mp
>
> This should strip out everything between btex ... etex into some tex
> commands. If this works,
>
> mpto useemp.mp > temp.tex
>
> Any non-existing filename instead of "temp" will do. Then do,
>
> latex temp.tex
>
> dvitomp temp.mp useemp.mpx
>
> and if all of these work without any error, do
>
> mpost useemp
>
>
> If possible, use Context to create the graphics, i.e.
>
> texexec --mptex useemp.mp
>
> to get mps files (.1, .2, etc) or
>
> texexec --mpgraphic useemp.mp
> pdf2ps useemp.pdf
>
> If however, you need to stick to latex for some reason, you need to
> figure out what is going wrong with your system.
>
Sorry, none of this works. I think you need to see what useemp.mp
looks like.
qdf $ cat useemp.mp
%%% useemp.mp -- do not edit, generated automatically by useemp.tex
verbatimtex
\documentclass [10pt]{article}
\begin {document}
etex;
input qdftools;
beginfig(1);
LaTeX_unitlength := 28.45274pt;
w := 4*LaTeX_unitlength;
h := 4*LaTeX_unitlength;
numeric u; 10u=3in;
gridfivefive;
xyaxesfivefive;
endfig;
verbatimtex
\end{document}
etex;
%%% the end.
end.
endinput;
See, there aren't any btex ... etex commands in there. But see the
input qdftools? That file looks like this:
qdf $ cat qdftools.mp
numeric s; s=0.2;
color gridlines; gridlines:=(s,s,s);
def openbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def openreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor red;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor blue;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def vtick(expr pos)=
draw ((0,-3)--(0,3)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def htick(expr pos)=
draw ((-3,0)--(3,0)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def gridfivefive =
for k=-5u step 1u until 5u:
draw (-5u,k)--(5u,k) withcolor gridlines;
draw (k,-5u)--(k,5u) withcolor gridlines;
endfor;
enddef;
def xyaxesfivefive=
drawdblarrow (-5u,0)--(5u,0);
label.rt(btex $x$ etex, (5u,0));
label.bot(btex $25$ etex, (5u,0));
drawdblarrow (0,-5u)--(0,5u);
label.top(btex $y$ etex, (0,5u));
label.lft(btex $5$ etex, (0,5u));
enddef;
endinput;
And that causes the problem.
pdflatex --shell-escape useemp.tex
...
(useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>> qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.41 label.rt(btex
$x$ etex, (5u,0));
Transcript written on useemp.log.
emp: File useemp.1 not found:
emp: Process useemp.mp with MetaPost and then reprocess this file.
[1{/Users/darnold/Library/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
(./useemp.aux) )</usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/type1/
bluesky/cm/cmr1
0.pfb>
Output written on useemp.pdf (1 page, 7944 bytes).
Transcript written on useemp.log.
Now, the strange thing is that everything works if I change mpost -
tex=latex \jobname to mpost \jobname in useemp.tex.
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 15:37 ` David Arnold
@ 2006-06-28 15:47 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 18:37 ` Aditya Mahajan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-06-28 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Arnold wrote:
>
> Now, the strange thing is that everything works if I change mpost -
> tex=latex \jobname to mpost \jobname in useemp.tex.
That is why I asked whether the 'latex' command works in the first
place.
-- Taco
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 15:24 ` David Arnold
@ 2006-06-28 16:04 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-06-28 16:11 ` David Arnold
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-06-28 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Arnold wrote:
> Taco,
>
> Not sure what you mean here, so I ran:
>
> latex useemp.tex
>
> And got:
> <correct output>
And now I am lost as well. Nothing useful in the mpxerr.log, I assume?
Taco
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 16:04 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2006-06-28 16:11 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 17:40 ` Taco Hoekwater
0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: David Arnold @ 2006-06-28 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
OK. Clean directory.
qdf $ ls
OTqdbpreview.sty dev.qdf sample2.qdf
dev.1 dev.tex useemp.mp
dev.mp functions.qdf useemp.pdf
dev.pdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
qdf $
useemp.tex:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{emp,ifpdf}
\ifpdf
\DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}
\fi
\setlength{\unitlength}{1cm}
\begin{document}
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
\empprelude{input qdftools}
\begin{empfile}
\begin{empdef}[david](4,4)
numeric u; 10u=3in;
gridfivefive;
xyaxesfivefive;
\end{empdef}
\end{empfile}
\immediate\write18{mpost -tex=latex \jobname}
\empuse{david}
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
\end{document}
qdftools.mp:
numeric s; s=0.2;
color gridlines; gridlines:=(s,s,s);
def openbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def openreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledreddot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor red;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
enddef;
def filledbluedot(expr pos)=
fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor blue;
draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
enddef;
def vtick(expr pos)=
draw ((0,-3)--(0,3)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def htick(expr pos)=
draw ((-3,0)--(3,0)) shifted pos;
enddef;
def gridfivefive =
for k=-5u step 1u until 5u:
draw (-5u,k)--(5u,k) withcolor gridlines;
draw (k,-5u)--(k,5u) withcolor gridlines;
endfor;
enddef;
def xyaxesfivefive=
drawdblarrow (-5u,0)--(5u,0);
label.rt(btex $x$ etex, (5u,0));
label.bot(btex $25$ etex, (5u,0));
drawdblarrow (0,-5u)--(0,5u);
label.top(btex $y$ etex, (0,5u));
label.lft(btex $5$ etex, (0,5u));
enddef;
endinput;
Now a run:
$ pdflatex --shell-escape useemp.tex
...
)This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't exist.
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>> qdftools.mp
>> qdftools.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.41 label.rt(btex
$x$ etex, (5u,0));
Transcript written on useemp.log.
emp: File useemp.1 not found:
emp: Process useemp.mp with MetaPost and then reprocess this file.
[1{/Users/darnold/Library/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}]
(./useemp.aux) )</usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/type1/
bluesky/cm/cmr1
0.pfb>
Output written on useemp.pdf (1 page, 7947 bytes).
Transcript written on useemp.log.
Now my directory:
qdf $ ls
OTqdbpreview.sty functions.qdf useemp.aux
dev.1 mpx509.dvi useemp.log
dev.mp mpxerr.log useemp.mp
dev.pdf mpxerr.tex useemp.pdf
dev.qdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
dev.tex sample2.qdf
And mpxerr.log:
qdf $ cat mpxerr.log
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
(format=latex 2006.6.27) 28 JUN 2006 09:10
entering extended mode
**mpx509.tex
(./mpx509.tex
LaTeX2e <2003/12/01>
Babel <v3.8d> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
ngerman, d
utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded.
LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font) <7> on input line 12.
LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
(Font) <5> on input line 12.
[1] [1] [1] [1]
! I can't find file `mpx509.aux'.
\enddocument ...makeatletter \input \jobname .aux
\fi \@dofilelist
\ifdim \f...
l.19 \end{document}
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
\enddocument ...makeatletter \input \jobname .aux
\fi \@dofilelist
\ifdim \f...
l.19 \end{document}
*** (job aborted, file error in nonstop mode)
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
10 strings out of 95138
181 string characters out of 1183036
2045165 words of memory out of 4500000
3256 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000
3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 2000000 for 2000
58 hyphenation exceptions out of 5000
18i,2n,12p,76b,66s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,
40000s
Output written on mpx509.dvi (4 pages, 432 bytes).
On Jun 28, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> David Arnold wrote:
>> Taco,
>>
>> Not sure what you mean here, so I ran:
>>
>> latex useemp.tex
>>
>> And got:
>> <correct output>
>
> And now I am lost as well. Nothing useful in the mpxerr.log, I assume?
>
> Taco
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 16:11 ` David Arnold
@ 2006-06-28 17:40 ` Taco Hoekwater
0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-06-28 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Arnold wrote:
> And mpxerr.log:
>
> qdf $ cat mpxerr.log
> This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
> (format=latex 2006.6.27) 28 JUN 2006 09:10
> entering extended mode
> **mpx509.tex
> (./mpx509.tex
> LaTeX2e <2003/12/01>
> Babel <v3.8d> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
> ngerman, d
> utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded.
> LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
> (Font) <7> on input line 12.
> LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size
> (Font) <5> on input line 12.
> [1] [1] [1] [1]
> ! I can't find file `mpx509.aux'.
> \enddocument ...makeatletter \input \jobname .aux
> \fi \@dofilelist
> \ifdim \f...
Educated guess: the 'embedded' latex never gets to see \documentclass
nor \begin{document}, and therefore it does not write an .aux file.
(In case you are wondering: the \end{document} is only there because
it is automatically added by makempx).
Taco
PS Turns out there was something useful in the mpxerr.log after all ;)
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* Re: emp.sty and metapost
2006-06-28 15:37 ` David Arnold
2006-06-28 15:47 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2006-06-28 18:37 ` Aditya Mahajan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2006-06-28 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, David Arnold wrote:
> Aditya,
>
> On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, David Arnold wrote:
>>
>>> Aditya,
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have faced this problem in the past, but was never sure why it
>>>> occured or how to rectify it. Try the command
>>>>
>>>> mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>>>>
>>>> on your shell. Do you get the same error message as before (you
>>>> should).
>>>
>>> Yes, same error message.
>>>
>>> qdf $ mpost --tex=latex useemp.mp
>>> This is MetaPost, Version 0.901 (Web2C 7.5.5)
>>> (useemp.mp (qdftools.mpnewer: target file `qdftools.mpx' doesn't
>>> exist.
>>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
>>> failed: latex mpxerr.tex; see mpxerr.log
>>>
>>>>> qdftools.mp
>>>>> qdftools.mpx
>>> ! Unable to make mpx file.
>>> l.41 label.rt(btex
>>> $x$ etex, (5u,0));
>>> Transcript written on useemp.log.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now try,
>>>>
>>>> makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>>
>>>> Does this create an mpx file?
>>>
>>> qdf $ ls
>>> OTqdbpreview.sty dev.qdf sample2.qdf
>>> dev.1 dev.tex useemp.mp
>>> dev.mp functions.qdf useemp.pdf
>>> dev.pdf qdftools.mp useemp.tex
>>> qdf $
>>>
>>> qdf $ makempx --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>> newer: target file `useemp.mpx' doesn't exist.
>>> dvitomp: mpx14741.dvi: No such file or directory
>>> mv: rename mpx14741.dvi to mpxerr.dvi: No such file or directory
>>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Command
>>> failed: dvitomp mpxerr.dvi useemp.mpx
>>>
>>> qdf $ ls
>>> OTqdbpreview.sty functions.qdf sample2.qdf
>>> dev.1 mpx14741.aux useemp.mp
>>> dev.mp mpx14741.log useemp.pdf
>>> dev.pdf mpx14741.tex useemp.tex
>>> dev.qdf mpxerr.log
>>> dev.tex qdftools.mp
>>>
>>> Doesn't look like it.
>>>
>>>> If it does, then atleast a workaround
>>>> for the problem is to have
>>>>
>>>> \immediate\write18{makempx --tex=latex \jobname.mp \jobname.mpx}
>>>> before
>>>> \immediate\write18{mpost --tex=latex \jobname}.
>>>>
>>>> If makempx fails, look at the output of
>>>>
>>>> makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>>>
>>>> What do you get?
>>>
>>>
>>> qdf $ makempx --verbose --tex=latex useemp.mp useemp.mpx
>>> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx: Invalid
>>> option: --verbose.
>>> Try `makempx --help' for more information.
>>>
>>>
>>> qdf $ makempx --help
>>> Usage: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/makempx [-
>>> tex|-tex=<program>|-troff] MPFILE MPXFILE.
>>> If MPXFILE is older than MPFILE, translate the labels from the
>>> MetaPost
>>> input file MPFIle to low-level commands in MPXFILE, by running
>>> mpto -tex, , and dvitomp
>>> by default; or, if -troff is specified,
>>> mpto -troff, eqn -Tps -d\$\$ | troff -Tps, and dmp.
>>>
>>> The current directory is used for writing temporary files. Errors
>>> are
>>> left in mpxerr.{tex,log,dvi}.
>>>
>>> If the file named in $MPTEXPRE (mptexpre.tex by default) exists,
>>> it is
>>> prepended to the output in tex mode.
>>
>> Hmm... the makempx that comes with miktex has --verbose, the one that
>> comes with context standalone does not. So, you seem to have one from
>> context.
>>
>> How about following makempx commands "by hand" that is,
>>
>> mpto useemp.mp
>>
>> This should strip out everything between btex ... etex into some tex
>> commands. If this works,
>>
>> mpto useemp.mp > temp.tex
>>
>> Any non-existing filename instead of "temp" will do. Then do,
>>
>> latex temp.tex
>>
>> dvitomp temp.mp useemp.mpx
>>
>> and if all of these work without any error, do
>>
>> mpost useemp
>>
>>
>> If possible, use Context to create the graphics, i.e.
>>
>> texexec --mptex useemp.mp
>>
>> to get mps files (.1, .2, etc) or
>>
>> texexec --mpgraphic useemp.mp
>> pdf2ps useemp.pdf
>>
>> If however, you need to stick to latex for some reason, you need to
>> figure out what is going wrong with your system.
>>
>
> Sorry, none of this works. I think you need to see what useemp.mp
> looks like.
>
> qdf $ cat useemp.mp
> %%% useemp.mp -- do not edit, generated automatically by useemp.tex
> verbatimtex
> \documentclass [10pt]{article}
> \begin {document}
> etex;
> input qdftools;
> beginfig(1);
> LaTeX_unitlength := 28.45274pt;
> w := 4*LaTeX_unitlength;
> h := 4*LaTeX_unitlength;
> numeric u; 10u=3in;
> gridfivefive;
> xyaxesfivefive;
> endfig;
> verbatimtex
> \end{document}
> etex;
> %%% the end.
> end.
> endinput;
>
> See, there aren't any btex ... etex commands in there. But see the
> input qdftools? That file looks like this:
>
> qdf $ cat qdftools.mp
> numeric s; s=0.2;
> color gridlines; gridlines:=(s,s,s);
>
> def openbluedot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
> enddef;
>
> def openreddot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor white;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
> enddef;
>
> def filledreddot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor red;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor red;
> enddef;
>
> def filledbluedot(expr pos)=
> fill fullcircle scaled 4pt withcolor blue;
> draw fullcircle scaed 4pt withcolor blue;
> enddef;
>
> def vtick(expr pos)=
> draw ((0,-3)--(0,3)) shifted pos;
> enddef;
>
> def htick(expr pos)=
> draw ((-3,0)--(3,0)) shifted pos;
> enddef;
>
> def gridfivefive =
> for k=-5u step 1u until 5u:
> draw (-5u,k)--(5u,k) withcolor gridlines;
> draw (k,-5u)--(k,5u) withcolor gridlines;
> endfor;
> enddef;
>
> def xyaxesfivefive=
> drawdblarrow (-5u,0)--(5u,0);
> label.rt(btex $x$ etex, (5u,0));
> label.bot(btex $25$ etex, (5u,0));
> drawdblarrow (0,-5u)--(0,5u);
> label.top(btex $y$ etex, (0,5u));
> label.lft(btex $5$ etex, (0,5u));
> enddef;
>
> endinput;
>
> And that causes the problem.
>
Ah. If I understand correctly, adding
verbatimtex
\documentclass [10pt]{article}
\begin {document}
etex;
in top of qdftools.mp should do the trick.
Aditya
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