From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31880 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: relative scaling for fonts Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:05:35 +0100 Message-ID: <3DF02A7E-0C6B-49AE-BB22-96CF26A80DA9@uni-bonn.de> References: <45578F68.9060201@web.de> <4559A542.6020409@wxs.nl> <455B1BD2.2070100@web.de> <455B2066.80806@wxs.nl> <455C27A5.6090205@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1163668082 4949 80.91.229.2 (16 Nov 2006 09:08:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 16 10:08:00 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GkdDy-0004VO-Ft for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34971FEA5; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:35 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09317-09-5; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:28 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270A11FEAA; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180A51FE96 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:14 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09318-03 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:07:02 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailout08.sul.t-online.com (mailout08.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 24C7C1FE8F for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:06:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from fwd33.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GkdCj-0007HX-00; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:06:41 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (XKjSJMZBweLcqPO0baws1Trr6xl8IIGLO6xy8yFxxZJkJ6PoIUcbQt@[84.172.83.24]) by fwd33.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GkdCX-0biixM0; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:06:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <455C27A5.6090205@web.de> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ID: XKjSJMZBweLcqPO0baws1Trr6xl8IIGLO6xy8yFxxZJkJ6PoIUcbQt@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: d2e43f52-60de-4e89-b1ed-e66a1ea9e987 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31880 Archived-At: On Nov 16, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Pablo Rodr=EDguez wrote: > My most common scenario for font scaling is not roman with = > sansserif or > typewritter, but roman Latin with roman Greek characters and = > setting the > same x-height for both. And I thought there were fine with the same > x-height for both. > > My typographical ability wouldn't let my set other relative scaling > factor other than 1 or the same x-height for both fonts. But will that work? What is the x-height of a Unicode font (and = AFAIK, XeTeX can't handle any other font) that has Latin and Greek = letters? You have to rely on the fact that the font designer will = have implemented an equal x-height for all his characters - which is = simply not the case for a majority of fonts, IMHO. So I'm not sure = that this is a necessary or useful thing to have. When all is said = and done, I still see no possibility other than looking at the = printed page and deciding yourself whether the relation between both = fonts is "right." Btw, most publishers don't seem to bother anymore = and just set the fonts at whatever is their design size. OUP, e.g., = uses Porson, which is a lot smaller than most Roman fonts, but they = don't scale. I find this horrible, but what I want to say is: there = doesn't seem to be an established typographical practice that could = just be automated. Best Thomas