\framed and \starttabulate

\framed and \starttabulate

[Matthew Huggett]

Hi:

I wanted to use
        \framed
            {\starttabulate ... \stoptabulate }

but when I tried it, TeX complained about groupings and missing 
parentheses.  Is there a way to make this work?  I switched to \bTABLE, 
and that worked,  but \starttabulate is more convenient sometimes.

Thanks

Matt

Re: \framed and \starttabulate

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:37 AM 3/19/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>I wanted to use
>        \framed
>            {\starttabulate ... \stoptabulate }
>
>but when I tried it, TeX complained about groupings and missing 
>parentheses.  Is there a way to make this work?  I switched to \bTABLE, 
>and that worked,  but \starttabulate is more convenient sometimes.

a \framed by default makes a so called hbox, and this conflicts with 
tabulate's halign; the resulting message comes deep down in tex and is one 
of the most confusing ones; it should be interpreted as: you are doing 
something complicated vertical in horizontal mode

Solution: force \framed to be a vbox, by setting the width/height or 
setting the align key to some value

\starttext

% unreadable (watch how we nil the strut, try it with \showstruts)

\framed[align=normal,strut=no]
   {\starttabulate
    \NC test \NC test \NC \NR
    \stoptabulate}

% more convenient (kind of startframedtext, but more tuned to this kind of 
usage)

\defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt]

test

\startframedcontent[mine]
\starttabulate[|l|l|]
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stopframedcontent

test

\stoptext

Also, compare this (spacing) with:

\defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt,linecorrection=yes]

test

\startframedcontent[mine]
\starttabulate[|l|l|]
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stopframedcontent

test


Hans
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Re: \framed and \starttabulate

[Matthew Huggett]

Hans:

Thanks for such a detailed answer.  I think all novice users really 
appreciate this kind of response.

Best wishes,
Matthew

Hans Hagen wrote:

> At 10:37 AM 3/19/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I wanted to use
>>        \framed
>>            {\starttabulate ... \stoptabulate }
>>
>> but when I tried it, TeX complained about groupings and missing 
>> parentheses.  Is there a way to make this work?  I switched to 
>> \bTABLE, and that worked,  but \starttabulate is more convenient 
>> sometimes.
>
>
> a \framed by default makes a so called hbox, and this conflicts with 
> tabulate's halign; the resulting message comes deep down in tex and is 
> one of the most confusing ones; it should be interpreted as: you are 
> doing something complicated vertical in horizontal mode
>
> Solution: force \framed to be a vbox, by setting the width/height or 
> setting the align key to some value
>
> \starttext
>
> % unreadable (watch how we nil the strut, try it with \showstruts)
>
> \framed[align=normal,strut=no]
>   {\starttabulate
>    \NC test \NC test \NC \NR
>    \stoptabulate}
>
> % more convenient (kind of startframedtext, but more tuned to this 
> kind of usage)
>
> \defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt]
>
> test
>
> \startframedcontent[mine]
> \starttabulate[|l|l|]
> \NC test \NC test \NC \NR
> \stoptabulate
> \stopframedcontent
>
> test
>
> \stoptext
>
> Also, compare this (spacing) with:
>
> \defineframedcontent[mine][offset=3pt,linecorrection=yes]
>
> test
>
> \startframedcontent[mine]
> \starttabulate[|l|l|]
> \NC test \NC test \NC \NR
> \stoptabulate
> \stopframedcontent
>
> test
>
>
> Hans
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