* newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
@ 2003-05-12 10:16 Thomas A. Schmitz
2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2003-05-12 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
After using LateX for a while, I became interested in ConTeXt and was
immediately fascinated by the ease of use and the logical structure of
commands. However, for my job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek
(politoniko). There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that
(Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I already
stumble whenever I try to set the language to Greek; I get a couple of
error messages (I use the standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS
X 10.2). Can anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions?
Thanks a lot!
--
Thomas A. Schmitz
Philologisches Seminar
Universitaet Bonn
Am Hof 1 e
53113 Bonn
Germany
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-12 10:16 newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-15 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Monday, May 12, 2003 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
TAS> After using LateX for a while, I became interested in
TAS> ConTeXt and was immediately fascinated by the ease of use
TAS> and the logical structure of commands. However, for my
TAS> job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek (politoniko).
TAS> There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that
TAS> (Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I
TAS> already stumble whenever I try to set the language to
TAS> Greek; I get a couple of error messages (I use the
TAS> standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS X 10.2). Can
TAS> anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions?
TAS> Thanks a lot!
What kind of errors do you get?
Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do
something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega
engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant
OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing.
Something that could probably be done is setting up a
typescript to use, for example, Claudio Beccari's fonts
(cbgreek). Also, there may be some Greek ConTeXt user (maybe
the one who contributed the Greek-specific language things?).
He might know more.
(Sorry for the quick answer, I will try to come out with a
draft for the cbgreek typescripts later :>)
--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-15 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do
> something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega
> engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant
> OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing.
I'd be curious to know what was wrong with those otp's (not that I
hardly ever use greek).
Best
Idris
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* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid
@ 2003-05-15 22:03 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-15 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Thursday, May 15, 2003 Idris S Hamid wrote:
ISH> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do
>> something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega
>> engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant
>> OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing.
ISH> I'd be curious to know what was wrong with those otp's (not that I
ISH> hardly ever use greek).
Off the top of my head: some obvious combinations were
missing/didn't seem to work (example: =A, <r, A| etc), other
were plain wrong (again, with capital alpha, some spirit/accent
combinations failed).
BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to
make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using
the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't
seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and
"officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you?
--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-12 10:16 newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Thomas A. Schmitz
2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-16 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Monday, May 12, 2003 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
TAS> After using LateX for a while, I became interested in
TAS> ConTeXt and was immediately fascinated by the ease of use
TAS> and the logical structure of commands. However, for my
TAS> job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek (politoniko).
TAS> There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that
TAS> (Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I
TAS> already stumble whenever I try to set the language to
TAS> Greek; I get a couple of error messages (I use the
TAS> standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS X 10.2). Can
TAS> anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions?
Ok, I did some quick&dirty job which you may want to test
there; it requires the cbgreek fonts, though (having never used
Teubner or psgreek, I have no idea how those work). Please see
the attacked cbgreek.tex (containing the typescript definition
for greek serif only, yet) and greektest.tex (containing an
example document).
--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
[-- Attachment #2: cbgreek.tex --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 4169 bytes --]
\starttypescript [serif] [cb-greek] [name]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal] [grmn]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Oblique] [grmo]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Italic] [grmi]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-UprightItalic] [grmu]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Caps] [grmc]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Leipzig] [grml]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Roman] [grmr]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Normal] [grbn]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Oblique] [grbo]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Italic] [grbi]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-UprightItalic] [grbu]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Caps] [grbc]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Leipzig] [grbl]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Roman] [grbr]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Normal] [grxn]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Oblique] [grxo]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Italic] [grxi]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-UprightItalic] [grxu]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Caps] [grxc]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Leipzig] [grxl]
\definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Roman] [grxr]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Oblique]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Caps]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Normal]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Oblique]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldCaps] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Caps]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [cb-greek] [size]
% Please note that we use Bold Extended instead of Bold
\definebodyfont
[5pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn0500,
sl=grmo0500,
it=grmi0500,
sc=grmc0500,
bf=grxn0500,
bs=grxo0500,
bi=grxi0500]
\definebodyfont
[6pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn0600,
sl=grmo0600,
it=grmi0600,
sc=grmc0600,
bf=grxn0600,
bs=grxo0600,
bi=grxi0600]
\definebodyfont
[7pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn0700,
sl=grmo0700,
it=grmi0700,
sc=grmc0700,
bf=grxn0700,
bs=grxo0700,
bi=grxi0700]
\definebodyfont
[8pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn0800,
sl=grmo0800,
it=grmi0800,
sc=grmc0800,
bf=grxn0800,
bs=grxo0800,
bi=grxi0800]
\definebodyfont
[9pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn0900,
sl=grmo0900,
it=grmi0900,
sc=grmc0900,
bf=grxn0900,
bs=grxo0900,
bi=grxi0900]
\definebodyfont
[10pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn1000,
sl=grmo1000,
it=grmi1000,
sc=grmc1000,
bf=grxn1000,
bs=grxo1000,
bi=grxi1000]
\definebodyfont
[10.95pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn1095,
sl=grmo1095,
it=grmi1095,
sc=grmc1095,
bf=grxn1095,
bs=grxo1095,
bi=grxi1095]
\definebodyfont
[12pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn1200,
sl=grmo1200,
it=grmi1200,
sc=grmc1200,
bf=grxn1200,
bs=grxo1200,
bi=grxi1200]
\definebodyfont
[14.40pt]
[rm]
[tf=grmn1440,
sl=grmo1440,
it=grmi1440,
sc=grmc1440,
bf=grxn1440,
bs=grxo1440,
bi=grxi1440]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [CBGreek]
\definebodyfontenvironment
[cbgreek]
[default]
[]
\definetypeface [cbgreek] [rm] [serif] [cb-greek] [cb-greek]
\stoptypescript
[-- Attachment #3: greektest.tex --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 1715 bytes --]
\usetypescriptfile[cbgreek]
\usetypescript [all] [cbgreek]
\def\enablegreek{\language[greek]\catcode`~=\other\catcode`|=\other}
\def\startgreek{\par\begingroup\setupbodyfont[cbgreek]\enablegreek}
\let\stopgreek\endgroup
\def\greek{\groupedcommand{\switchtobodyfont[cbgreek]\enablegreek}{}}
\mainlanguage[english]
\starttext
We can easily use plain English for normal text, and then switch
to greek when we want; as a first try we type the lower and
upper case 26 letters of the latin alphabet and see how they come
out in greek:
\startgreek
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
\stopgreek
As it can be observed, some uppercase letters have strange
outcomes; also, j gives \greek{j} and c gives the
end-of-word sigma \greek{c}; interestingly, s gives either the
normal sigma or the end-of-word one, depending on whether it's at
the of the word or not: \greek{satrapws}.
Of course we can use the various diacritical signs: accents
(\greek{`a, 'a, ~a}), breathings (\greek{<r, >w, a"}) and
subscribed iotas (\greek{a|, h|, w|}) (these last are pretty ugly in my
opinion); observe how they automatically get the correct position
with uppercase letters: (\greek{`A, 'A, ~A, <A, >A, A|}).
Can the thing be used for serious work?
\startgreek
>'Andra moi >'ennepe, Mo~usa, pol'utropon, >'os m'ala poll`a\hfill\break
pl'agqjh, >epe`i Tro'ihs <er`on ptol'iejron >'eperse;\hfill\break
poll~wn d" >anjr'wpwn >'iden >'astea ka`i n'oon >'egnw,\hfill\break
poll`a d" <'o g" >en p'ontw| p'ajen >'algea <`on kat`a jum'on,\hfill\break
>arn'umenos <'hn te yuq`hn ka`i n'oston <eta'irwn.
\stopgreek
\stoptext
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid
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From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to
> make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using
> the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't
> seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and
> "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you?
Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over
maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert
in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-)
Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a
little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific
features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these
things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex
(which I could never get to work anyway...)
Best
Idris
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid
@ 2003-05-17 19:40 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 20:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
One more thing:
if you could find a way to get rid of this input file in m-gamma (which is
just a port/improvement of omega.sty)
grlccode.tex
Hans will be quite happy. But since I don't know Greek I don't know what to
do with it.
Best
Idris
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid
@ 2003-05-17 20:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-17 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 13:40 17/05/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>One more thing:
>
>if you could find a way to get rid of this input file in m-gamma (which is
>just a port/improvement of omega.sty)
>
>grlccode.tex
>
>Hans will be quite happy. But since I don't know Greek I don't know what to
>do with it.
non-omega greek will be available soon so that's a starting point
Hans
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* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid
@ 2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-18 20:14 ` eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] Idris S Hamid
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-17 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 13:09 17/05/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>
> > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to
> > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using
> > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't
> > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and
> > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you?
>
>Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over
>maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert
>in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-)
as soon as you have m-gamma complete i'll move thinsg to the core of context
>Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a
>little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific
what tripping the problem? it may be an unimportant one
>features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these
>things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex
>(which I could never get to work anyway...)
forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document
with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp
parser does not keep on reading whole files
Hans
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* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-05-17 23:27 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-18 20:14 ` eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] Idris S Hamid
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-17 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Saturday, May 17, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
HH> At 13:09 17/05/2003 -0600, Idris S Hamid wrote:
>>Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>
>> > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to
>> > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using
>> > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't
>> > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and
>> > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you?
>>
>>Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over
>>maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert
>>in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-)
HH> as soon as you have m-gamma complete i'll move thinsg to the core of context
Two things: supporting gamma is for me somewhat a problem,
because I have *very* limited knowledge of the multilingual
stuff which is in it. The only fixes I implemented were some
"ConTeXtization" of a few things which had remained "LaTeXish"
or even TeXish in a couple of cases. Anyway, the current
m-gamma thing can only be a temporary solution: the whole thing
really needs to be redesigned from scratch with ConTeXt in
mind, and ConTeXt-specific OTPs should be designed.
>>Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a
>>little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific
HH> what tripping the problem? it may be an unimportant one
It was an extremely important one: it popped up in many
real-world cases (at least according to Alan). The fix should
not break anything, because it consisted in a removal of a
routine which was used but without side-effects (at least that
I could see). There other tripping problems (i.e. I *lied* when
I said e-Omega can now trip correctly), but these seem to be
major and will be addressed in the (hopefully near) future.
>>features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these
>>things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex
>>(which I could never get to work anyway...)
HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document
HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp
HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files
Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can
try it here.
Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as
TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP
e-Omega ...).
--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-18 19:50 ` Re[3]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-18 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 01:27 18/05/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document
>HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp
>HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files
>
>Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can
>try it here.
i'll see if i can do some tests when fabrice posts the binary
>Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as
>TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP
>e-Omega ...).
just wondering: do you use etex's >255 registers or just omega's native ones?
Hans
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* Re[3]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?
2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-05-18 19:50 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-18 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Sunday, May 18, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
HH> At 01:27 18/05/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>>HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document
>>HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp
>>HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files
>>
>>Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can
>>try it here.
HH> i'll see if i can do some tests when fabrice posts the binary
>>Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as
>>TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP
>>e-Omega ...).
HH> just wondering: do you use etex's >255 registers or just omega's native ones?
I use Omega's native ones, mostly. The only exception is that
\marks registers (these follow the e-TeX implementation).
--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
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* eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?]
2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2003-05-18 20:14 ` Idris S Hamid
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-18 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
[Please cc Alan for this thread.]
Hans Hagen wrote:
> >features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these
> >things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex
> >(which I could never get to work anyway...)
>
> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document
> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp
> parser does not keep on reading whole files
I have some pretty intense stuff here, but unfortunately the otp's and fonts are
proprietary so we can't use them for general testing. But I have some
all-vowelized Arabic stuff extending over a hundred pages that generally works
fine. Some of it uses EDMAC, which really helps to tax the memory etc. Fully
vowelized Arabic is the most taxing stuff; I guess I can port some of my stuff
to the default Omega font (omarb) for testing, though the results will look
chaotic unless I write new otp's for that font (ugh). On the other hand, since u
and gb don't know Arabic :-( that will not matter at all.
I'll try to put something together in the next two weeks (grading, teaching
Summer session, going to DC for a speech r keeping me tied up 4 now).
Best
Idris
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2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-18 19:50 ` Re[3]: " Giuseppe Bilotta
2003-05-18 20:14 ` eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid
2003-05-17 20:07 ` Hans Hagen
2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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