From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/12432 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matthew Huggett Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Writing Japanese using ConTeXt Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 23:16:27 +0900 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <3EE496BB.1010605@zam.att.ne.jp> References: <000001c32db3$f5e81750$0a01a8c0@TIMBO> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055168335 6590 80.91.224.249 (9 Jun 2003 14:18:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 14:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Mon Jun 09 16:18:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19PNTY-0001fK-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:18:20 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BD410AFF; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:20:44 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtp1.att.ne.jp (smtp1.att.ne.jp [165.76.15.137]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DFC10AF9 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:16:41 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from zam.att.ne.jp (218.231.177.61.eo.eaccess.ne.jp [218.231.177.61]) by smtp1.att.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C94158B4 for ; Mon, 9 Jun 2003 23:16:38 +0900 (JST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, zh-cn, ja, zh-tw Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <000001c32db3$f5e81750$0a01a8c0@TIMBO> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:12432 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:12432 Tim 't Hart wrote: >Recently, I've made the 'unwise' decision to start studying Japanese next >year, and of course I want to keep on using ConTeXt to write my school >papers. [....] So I decided to find a way to >write Japanese in ConTeXt. > >First I tried using the eOmega/ConTeXt combination since I have some great >OTPs for it, but soon found out that Omega is still "the TeX of the future", >in other words, not the "TeX of today" and extremely unstable. > >Then I decided to try ConTeXt's UTF-8 support. I created the following test > > I asked about Japanese a while back. Hans requested more information on encodings, fonts, etc. I don't know enough about these things or ConTeXt to know what is needed exactly. From what I've read, unicode is not that popular in Japan itself. The most common encodings here are a) iso-2022-jp (7bit) b) japanese-iso-8bit (a.k.a euc-japan-1990, euc-japan, euc-jp) c) japanese-shift-jis (shift jis 8bit; common under MS Windows) "Describe Language Environment" under MULE in Gnu Emacs gives some info. Ken Lunde of Adobe has a book or two on processing Japanese. Typesetting Japanese could be more complicated than Chinese because of the concurrent use of four writing systems: a) Kanji (Chinese Characters) b) Hiragana (Syllabic script for representing grammatical endings and words for which Kanji are not commonly used.) c) Katakana (Syllabic script for representing foreign words, some scientfic words (flora, fauna), and for emphasis) d) Romaji -- lit. "Roman Characters" (Sometimes foreign languages, especially English, are represented in latin script) It is more common than you might imagine. I guess I need to track down a few sample documents. I tried to turn up some info on Japanese typesetting rules but had no luck. best wishes, Matt