From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/43793 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Flavien Lambert" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Greek letters in math with XeTeX Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:24:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3eb5f5b10809080424m1523146cuca306d325fd05a@mail.gmail.com> References: <3eb5f5b10809071304u2f5f647bwadf26dd072fa6b8@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00809071837r5623b5cas3b3e65b1bf823894@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0898976477==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220873253 24069 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 11:27:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:27:33 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Sep 08 13:28:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kceup-0003x0-DU for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:28:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BDC1FC45; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:26:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27541-03-11; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:25:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211F11FF24; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:25:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034C1FF24 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:25:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26994-07-5 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:24:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.232]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E06C1FEBC for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id r21so266966wxc.5 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.13.13 with SMTP id 13mr5191031wfm.127.1220873068729; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.142.172.16 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 04:24:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00809071837r5623b5cas3b3e65b1bf823894@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:43793 Archived-At: --===============0898976477== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_78011_27904244.1220873068727" ------=_Part_78011_27904244.1220873068727 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just to understand a bit more : signs like equal are printed inside math environment with GFS Didot thanks to \definetypeface[myface][rm][Xserif][GFS Didot]. Since GFS Didot ,as a greek font has greek letters, why are these glyphs not used ? I suppose that when greek people are using directly alpha as a letter (not \alpha), it should take into account the GFS Didot font, shouldn' it ? > > No time for complete answer, but you need to define the whole > [math][GFS Didot] repertoaire first. This has no effect until you > define one. > > Someone needs to write "Unicode math support" for mkii, or you need to > make your own virtual font. > > See this file for example: > http://source.contextgarden.net/math-lbr.tex > in a similar way that would need to be done for general typefaces without > math. > > You might then be able to say something like > \definetypeface[myface][mm][Xmath][GFS Didot], though I'm 100% > sure that people would then start complaining very soon that they > either: > - want other math characters in their favorite font as well (like > plus, minus, brackets, ...), not only Greek letters > - complain that they don't get any symbol (no font has them all) > > Mojca > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Flavien. ---------------------------- "Quantum objects are completely crazy but, at least, they are all crazy in the same way." 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Just to understand a bit more : signs like equal are printed inside math environment with GFS Didot thanks to \definetypeface[myface][rm][Xserif][GFS Didot]. Since GFS Didot ,as a greek font has greek letters, why are these glyphs not used ? I suppose that when greek people are using directly alpha as a letter (not \alpha), it should take into account the GFS Didot font, shouldn' it ?



No time for complete answer, but you need to define the whole
[math][GFS Didot] repertoaire first. This has no effect until you
define one.

Someone needs to write "Unicode math support" for mkii, or you need to
make your own virtual font.

See this file for example:
   http://source.contextgarden.net/math-lbr.tex
in a similar way that would need to be done for general typefaces without math.

You might then be able to say something like
   \definetypeface[myface][mm][Xmath][GFS Didot], though I'm 100%
sure that people would then start complaining very soon that they
either:
- want other math characters in their favorite font as well (like
plus, minus, brackets, ...), not only Greek letters
- complain that they don't get any symbol (no font has them all)

Mojca
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Flavien.
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