From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/21638 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brooks Moses Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: "Very dirty" localisation request for a rainy evening Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:39:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20050726153323.0278cc20@cits1.stanford.edu> References: <6faad9f00507261401390177c3@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1122417932 30786 80.91.229.2 (26 Jul 2005 22:45:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jul 27 00:45:23 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DxY9W-0007IG-RX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:43:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653541281E; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23873-05; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E0212804; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFD812804 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:40:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23616-04-7 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:40:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3.Stanford.EDU (smtp3.Stanford.EDU [171.67.16.138]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF11127FA for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:40:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mindolluin.stanford.edu (DNab42a643.Stanford.EDU [171.66.166.67]) by smtp3.Stanford.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6QMdoN8002707; Tue, 26 Jul 2005 15:39:51 -0700 X-Sender: brooks@cits1.stanford.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Original-To: Mojca Miklavec , mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00507261401390177c3@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:21638 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:21638 At 02:01 PM 7/26/2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >Hello Hans, Today I saw a webpage of someone, who is very active in the=20 >field of translation and localisation of free software into Slovenian. It= =20 >astonished me the way he numered the items on his webpage: (a)=20 >approximation ... (b) Gauss ... (c) numerical solutions ... (=E8) solving= =20 >parabolic ... % [\ccaron] (d) ... This should actually be the only proper= =20 >way to number items in Slovenian, but you can imagine that nobody is able= =20 >to use that since the beginning of computer era. (Another example is the=20 >usage of quotation marks: most people use the American quotation marks=20 >instead of the German ones just because MS Word defaults to that.)=20 >However, those people who really care, use the Slovenian alphabet when=20 >enumerating (manually, of course). I'm proud, for example, that I was in=20 >the class "1.=C8" in the high school. Not right away, but any time in the= =20 >future when unicode, fonts and similar will be updated/reimplemented/fully= =20 >supported and when it will be raining cats and dogs and nothing=20 >interesting will be on TV: can you think on this this tiny request to=20 >switch to local enumeration if \mainlanguage[sl] (or any other language=20 >with a similar request) is selected? I decided that this would be a good excuse to learn a little more about how= =20 ConTeXt handles enumerations. It turns out (as Hans just mentioned while I= =20 was writing this!) that there is already the functionality to define=20 language-specific enumerations, so no need to wait for that. So, anyhow, I wrote up a short third-party module to handle Slovenian=20 character enumeration (can I presume that the rest of the alphabet ordering= =20 is the same as English?), along with a test file. You can get them here=20 for now: http://dpdx.net/context/slovenian/ Hans (or anyone else who knows more than I do), is there a better place to= =20 put this? - Brooks