when trying to setup Arial fonts...

when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[jimarin]

Hi all,

I am trying to setup Arial fonts...I am quite a newbie to this ConTeXt
thing...

Once Willi told me to use:

>Hi Jose
>
>use
>
>\usetypescript[helvetica][\defaultencoding]
>\setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt]
>
>Success!
>
>Willi

I have just done \setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt] cause

\usetypescript apparently is not recognised in my ConTeXt (previous
version to the latest update of these days)

what is the use of this \usetypescript thing?

is Arial just a nickname for Helvetica sans-serif?

cheers !

Jose Ignacio

Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Jose,


> I am trying to setup Arial fonts...I am quite a newbie to this ConTeXt
> thing...

>
> I have just done \setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt] cause
>
> \usetypescript apparently is not recognised in my ConTeXt (previous
> version to the latest update of these days)

\usetypescript is an old command. Your ConTeXt surely knows about
this command.

> what is the use of this \usetypescript thing?

Well, typescripts are complicated. See Bill' page at
http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html

using Helvetica works for me:
--------------------------------------------------
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding] 
\usetypescript [postscript][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
  
\starttext
foo
\stoptext
--------------------------------------------------


> is Arial just a nickname for Helvetica sans-serif?

Well, yes and no.

There is no such thing as Helvetica sans-serif, because Helvetica
*is* without serifs. And Arial and Helvetica are two different fonts,
though similar looking and same metrics. But, depending on your
setup, asking for Helvetica can result in using Arial in Acrobat
Reader.

Patrick

Re: Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[jimarin]

Hi Patrick,

thanks for your reply...

hmmm, I tried your code but I get a funny message.

The thing is that I suspect I am lacking some files...

***********************
...
... many things here...at the end crashes because...
...
typescript     : [map] [ec] []
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))kpathsea: Running
mktextfm ec-u
hvr8a
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map source abbreviation  for
ec-uhvr8
a.
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update ?
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; inpu
t ec-uhvr8a
This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-uhvr8a
! I can't find file `ec-uhvr8a'.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a

Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a

Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input
ec-uh
vr8a' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*12ptsstf*=ec-uhvr8a at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not
foun
d.
<to be read again>
                   \relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
                                                  \let
\localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname
                                                  \tryingfontfalse \fi
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
                                                  \fi \iftryingfont
\fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
                                                  \relax \fi
\ifskipfontchar...
<argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle }
                                           \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle
}\if...
...
l.3 \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]

?
********************************

I think something is not ok in my configuration...perhaps I don´t have the
whole font set...I am running the TeX that comes wrapped with cygwin...and
ConTeXt on top of it...

any clue?

Jose

> Hello Jose,
>
>
>> I am trying to setup Arial fonts...I am quite a newbie to this ConTeXt
>> thing...
>
>>
>> I have just done \setupbodyfont[helvetica,ss,12pt] cause
>>
>> \usetypescript apparently is not recognised in my ConTeXt (previous
>> version to the latest update of these days)
>
> \usetypescript is an old command. Your ConTeXt surely knows about
> this command.
>
>> what is the use of this \usetypescript thing?
>
> Well, typescripts are complicated. See Bill' page at
> http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html
>
> using Helvetica works for me:
> --------------------------------------------------
> \usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
> \usetypescript [postscript][\defaultencoding]
> \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> foo
> \stoptext
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
>> is Arial just a nickname for Helvetica sans-serif?
>
> Well, yes and no.
>
> There is no such thing as Helvetica sans-serif, because Helvetica
> *is* without serifs. And Arial and Helvetica are two different fonts,
> though similar looking and same metrics. But, depending on your
> setup, asking for Helvetica can result in using Arial in Acrobat
> Reader.
>
> Patrick
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>
>

Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello,

> thanks for your reply...
>
> hmmm, I tried your code but I get a funny message.
>
> The thing is that I suspect I am lacking some files...

Try 

\usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
\usetypescript [postscript][ec]
\setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]

\starttext
foo
\stoptext

How old is your ConTeXt? What TeX system do you have?

Make sure that ther is a line in your logfile like:

fonts          : [adobekb] [ec] []

If this does not appear, post your complete logfile.

Patrick

Re: Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[jimarin]

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Hello there,

I have tried

> Try
>
> \usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
> \usetypescript [postscript][ec]
> \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> foo
> \stoptext
>
> How old is your ConTeXt? What TeX system do you have?
>
> Make sure that ther is a line in your logfile like:
>
> fonts          : [adobekb] [ec] []
>
> If this does not appear, post your complete logfile.
>
> Patrick

the line appears but the command fails

my ConTeXt is the latest...just downloaded

my TeX is the one that comes bundled with cygwin:

This is TeXk, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)

also

This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5)

the poor thing says that it cannot make:

mktextfm ec-uhvr8a

I enclose the output


thanks !


Jose



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(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex))kpathsea: Running mktextfm ec-uhvr8a
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map source abbreviation  for ec-uhvr8a.
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update ?
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This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.4.5)

kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-uhvr8a
! I can't find file `ec-uhvr8a'.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a
                                                  
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...jfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a
                                                  
Transcript written on mfput.log.
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-uhvr8a' failed.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.

! Font \*12ptsstf*=ec-uhvr8a at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not foun
d.
<to be read again> 
                   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
                                                  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
                                                  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
                                                  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
                                                  \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar...
<argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle }
                                           \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.3 \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
                               
? 

Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,


>> \usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
>> \usetypescript [postscript][ec]
>> \setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> foo
>> \stoptext

[ failed with message like ec-uhvr8a not found ]

The ConTeXt was too old. It did not have the type-akb.tex file and
so the filenames did not get mapped to the standard names. 

Why does a missing typescript not produce any error message?

Patrick

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Re: Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Hans Hagen]

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>Hi,
>
>
>  
>
>>>\usetypescript [adobekb][ec]
>>>\usetypescript [postscript][ec]
>>>\setupbodyfont[pos,ss,12pt]
>>>
>>>\starttext
>>>foo
>>>\stoptext
>>>      
>>>
>
>[ failed with message like ec-uhvr8a not found ]
>
>The ConTeXt was too old. It did not have the type-akb.tex file and
>so the filenames did not get mapped to the standard names. 
>
>Why does a missing typescript not produce any error message?
>  
>

because then you would ask how to turn off all those messages,  add 
\tracetypescriptstrue to cont-sys.tex and you'll have tons of messages -)

Hans 


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Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Patrick Gundlach]

[...]

> because then you would ask how to turn off all those messages,  add
> \tracetypescriptstrue to cont-sys.tex and you'll have tons of messages
> -)

you should have warned me before, I have no space on my harddisk left
anymore ;-)

Patrick
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Re: Re: when trying to setup Arial fonts...

[Hans Hagen]

Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>[...]
>
>  
>
>>because then you would ask how to turn off all those messages,  add
>>\tracetypescriptstrue to cont-sys.tex and you'll have tons of messages
>>-)
>>    
>>
>
>you should have warned me before, I have no space on my harddisk left
>anymore ;-)
>  
>
in that case, \tracingall is your friend -) 

Hans   

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