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@ 2004-07-15 15:01 Hans Hagen
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From: ishamid <ishamid@lamar.colostate.edu>
To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
Subject: Please forward
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:16:56 -0600
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Subject: fighting footnotes
Dear posse,
I am having trouble with footnotes. For an article, I want some footnotes to
be symbolized by \ast, \dag, etc, but without affecting the numbering of
regular footnotes. For example, the title of article may have a footnote
symbolized by \ast, but the first footnote in the main text should still be
symbolized by `1' (then `2', etc). I tried localfootnotes but I could not get
them placed in the footer at the bottom of the page. [location=page] did not
help.
Related question: can't I just specify a footnote outside the counting
mechanism with any symbol I want at any point in the text, without disturbing
the regular counted footnotes?
I'm also confused by the conversion key. page 93 of the documentation reads:
"With the variable conversion you set up the type of numbering. You may even
use your own character, for example an emdash (keyed in as ---)."
But if I do, e.g., conversion={---}, TeX complains of course. What am I
missing?
Related questions:
Where are the conversion keys set 2, set 3, etc. documented?
How can I reset the numbering if I make local changes? For example, I am using
regular default footnotes, then I switch to conversion=set 2, then I want to
reset to the default footnotes without losing my numbering. I thought that
[n=0] etc. might help but that key seems to affect the paragraph formatting of
the footnotes, not the numbering. I tried using \start-\stop but that does not
isolate the counting mechanism apparently.
Fighting TeX is really frustrating sometimes, and I'm sure the answers are
really simple...
Best
Idris
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* Re: [Fwd: Please forward]
2004-07-15 15:03 Hans Hagen
@ 2004-08-01 18:54 ` Christopher Creutzig
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From: Christopher Creutzig @ 2004-08-01 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
> From:
> ishamid <ishamid@lamar.colostate.edu>
> I am having trouble with footnotes. For an article, I want some footnotes to
> be symbolized by \ast, \dag, etc, but without affecting the numbering of
> regular footnotes. For example, the title of article may have a footnote
If these footnotes need not be printed intermixed with other
footnotes, please try
\starttext
\definenote[othernote][conversion=set 2]
test\footnote{footnote}
test\othernote{othernote}
blah\footnote{another footnote}
\stoptext
Otherwise, please see below.
> Related question: can't I just specify a footnote outside the counting
> mechanism with any symbol I want at any point in the text, without disturbing
> the regular counted footnotes?
It seems you can't do this directly, but with a specially defined
conversion and the \savecounter[footnote] stuff below, it is certainly
doable.
> But if I do, e.g., conversion={---}, TeX complains of course. What am I
> missing?
You must define your conversion first:
\starttext
\defineconversion[emdash][{---},{---}]
\setupfootnotes[conversion=emdash]
test\footnote{footnote}
\stoptext
You need two of the dashes to make ConTeXt realize you want to define
a (one-element) set, not some command.
> Where are the conversion keys set 2, set 3, etc. documented?
I don't know about documentation (right now), but look into
core-con.tex. Hans, for me
texexec --module `kpsewhich core-con.tex`
results in an error, line 42 calls \starttyping, but modules use the
Dutsch interface, no?
> How can I reset the numbering if I make local changes? For example, I am using
> regular default footnotes, then I switch to conversion=set 2, then I want to
> reset to the default footnotes without losing my numbering. I thought that
What about grouping?
\starttext
test\footnote{othernote}
{\setupfootnotes[conversion=set 3]
blah\footnote{another footnote}} and more text\footnote{with
footnotes}.
\stoptext
But since this only changes the way the footnote numbers are displayed,
there won't be a footnote "2" in the code above. To get this, the best
I could find is
\starttext
test\footnote{othernote}
{% grouping
\savenumber[footnote]%
\setupfootnotes[conversion=set 3]%
blah\footnote{another footnote}%
\restorenumber[footnote]%
}
and more text\footnote{with footnotes}.
\stoptext
By the way: Is there some \save-magic that will automatically restore
at the end of the innermost current group, like color does?
regards,
Christopher Creutzig
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2004-08-01 18:54 ` Christopher Creutzig
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From: ishamid <ishamid@lamar.colostate.edu>
To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
Subject: Please forward
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:17:09 -0600
Message-ID: <4101C6CC@webmail.colostate.edu>
Hi Hans,
This message bounced from the list for some reason. I am accessing and using
my work email from home (using a webmail account) but <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
seems to think it's coming from a non-member and bounces it back. Could you
forward it? Any suggestions on getting <ntg-context@ntg.nl> to recognize me
from my webmail portal?
Best
Idris
Subject: fighting footnotes
Dear posse,
I am having trouble with footnotes. For an article, I want some footnotes to
be symbolized by \ast, \dag, etc, but without affecting the numbering of
regular footnotes. For example, the title of article may have a footnote
symbolized by \ast, but the first footnote in the main text should still be
symbolized by `1' (then `2', etc). I tried localfootnotes but I could not get
them placed in the footer at the bottom of the page. [location=page] did not
help.
Related question: can't I just specify a footnote outside the counting
mechanism with any symbol I want at any point in the text, without disturbing
the regular counted footnotes?
I'm also confused by the conversion key. page 93 of the documentation reads:
"With the variable conversion you set up the type of numbering. You may even
use your own character, for example an emdash (keyed in as ---)."
But if I do, e.g., conversion={---}, TeX complains of course. What am I
missing?
Related questions:
Where are the conversion keys set 2, set 3, etc. documented?
How can I reset the numbering if I make local changes? For example, I am using
regular default footnotes, then I switch to conversion=set 2, then I want to
reset to the default footnotes without losing my numbering. I thought that
[n=0] etc. might help but that key seems to affect the paragraph formatting of
the footnotes, not the numbering. I tried using \start-\stop but that does not
isolate the counting mechanism apparently.
Fighting TeX is really frustrating sometimes, and I'm sure the answers are
really simple...
Best
Idris
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