From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15825 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Fwd: (Classical) greek in ConTeXt/Gamma [please forward] Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:11 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <4106211B.2060404@wxs.nl> References: <41112589@webmail.colostate.edu> <136813393.20040726133751@iol.it> <93AFFDB2-DF2C-11D8-9703-000A95B9ADE2@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1090920751 14937 80.91.224.253 (27 Jul 2004 09:32:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jul 27 11:32:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BpOJn-00042J-00 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0325C1279C; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09417-02; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29701278C; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96441278C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09275-07 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (unknown [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D58E1278A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6R9WCds027575 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:12 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 68E3D1B39D; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:32:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.191] (unknown [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC11F1856F for ; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:32:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <93AFFDB2-DF2C-11D8-9703-000A95B9ADE2@uni-bonn.de> X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.75, clamav-milter version 0.75 on mailrelay01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15825 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15825 Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: > Well, this is pretty old news, so I'm not sure if a reply is still > called for; whatever, here comes: I'm not quite sure why Giuseppe is > trying to use eomega instead of plain ole pdftex. I mean, you're not > writing Greek in Unicode, right? If you're still interested, drop me a > line, I have a home-cooked Greek package for ConTeXt which works very > well on my box (which is teTeX on Mac OS X); I could send you the > files. And the iota subscript is usuall done with an | after the > vowel, as in a|. The combination =A (alpha with circumflex) does not > occur in classical Greek without a breathing, but ought to work. > > HTH > > Thomas i think that it makes sense to figure out some mechanism/interface that works well with both systems , so how does your package look like? Hans > On Jul 26, 2004, at 1:37 PM, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > >> Idris sent me this asking me to forward it. My reply follows. >> >> ===8<==============Original message text=============== >> Hi Giuseppe, >> >> I was digging in the archives and came across this; I don't think I >> ever saw >> this message (must have been busy at the time). Did you ever get an >> answer? >> I'm sure that editing the otp's will get you the result u wanted >> quite easily, >> but in the year since u wrote this u've probably figured that out >> already:-) >> >> Best >> Idri >> >> [NTG-context] (Classical) greek in ConTeXt/Gamma >> Giuseppe Bilotta ntg-context@ntg.nl >> Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:40:35 +0200 >> >> Hello, >> >> I don't know if Idris is following the group (I hope he is), but >> anyway I have a couple of questions on the support for Greek in >> ConTeXt, Omega and thus also Gamma. >> >> The need is that of typesetting classical greek snippets in a >> latin (Italian, but could be English) context. I thought that >> ConTeXt+(e-)Omega would be the best thing in town, so I prepared a >> small test file: >> >> \usemodule[gamma] >> >> \mainlanguage[italian] >> >> \starttext >> >> Possiamo scrivere tranquillamente in italiano; questo non ci priva >> per\`o della possibilit\`a di scrivere in greco: vediamo subito >> l'alfabeto minuscolo e maiuscolo (notare come j dia \greek{j} >> e c dia il sigma di fine parola \greek{c}): >> >> \startgreek >> a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z >> >> A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z >> \stopgreek >> >> \`E ovviamente possibile usare segni diacritici come gli accenti >> (\greek{`a, 'a, =a}) o gli spiriti (\greek{w}); osserviamo >> come questi assumano automaticamente la posizione corretta nel >> caso di lettere maiuscole (\greek{`A, 'A, =A, A, Ai}) >> >> >> \stoptext >> >> While it seems to work pretty well most of the time, there seem to >> be some problems; I'd like to know where they arise from and if >> and how they can be fixed. The problems: >> >> Combination Doesn't give >> > =A capital alpha with circumflex >> > >> >> Moreover, I don't know how to write the subscribed iota. My system >> is a MiKTeX 2.2 with (e-)Omega 1.15. Does anybody have an idea? >> >> -- >> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta >> >> >> ===8<===========End of original message text=========== >> >> My reply: >> >> Well, I'm pretty sure the bug is in the OTPs that come with >> Omega (which is pretty funny, considering that Yannis *is* >> Greek ...). I guess that when the rougher edges in Aleph are >> fixed we'll start correcting the OCPs :) >> >> -- >> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ntg-context mailing list >> ntg-context@ntg.nl >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > ================================================================ > Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet > gecontroleerd op virussen. > Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst > waar op wordt gecontroleerd. > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------