From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15945 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mojca Miklavec Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: "Animation" in slides (\presentationstep, metafun) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:06:48 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <4110ED78.3020504@email.si> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091628431 13628 80.91.224.253 (4 Aug 2004 14:07:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Aug 04 16:06:57 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BsMPx-0005s6-00 for ; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 16:06:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE3912771; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32285-06; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F281276B; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1A21276B for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32311-03 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from avs2.arnes.si (unknown [193.2.1.75]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C54C126F8 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B39426D876 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from avs2.arnes.si ([193.2.1.75]) by localhost (avs2.arnes.si [193.2.1.75]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30787-07 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from email.si (ar20-15i.dial-up.arnes.si [194.249.10.207]) by avs2.arnes.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id E110F26D6B7 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:06:51 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sl-SI; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: sl, en, en-us, de Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at arnes.si X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15945 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15945 I would first like to apologise for this "flooding" of the mailing list with some questions I can't tackle with alone. It's just a mixture of opinions and questions I came accross in the last month while making first steps into ConTeXt and I wrote them all at once. I'll appreciate any suggestion, hint or solution to any of these problems. *** *** *** *** *** After some failed experimets with \presentationstep (I'm still not sure why it doesn't work) I've browsed through the archives a bit, but still didn't find any satisfying and elegant solution for what I need. 1.) line-after-line ... just as what \presentationstep was intended for. Is there an elegant way to achive this "standard PowerPoint trick" of showing the content of the same page stepwise? I've found a presentation of Patrick Gundlach (Keine Angst vor (runden Klammern)), 22.1.02 with \StartItem ... \StopItem, and it more or less solves the problem, but for some non-expert, not reading the archive and without the need of this pretty, fascinating "shadowed" effect, some easier solution should be (and maybe already is) provided. In http://www.sfu.ca/~cdlinkle/jan23.htm there's an example of a nice ans simple usage in Prosper: \fromSlide{[slideNr]}{...text...} makes the portion of text or graphics available only from a certain slide number on. \onlySlide{[slideNr]}{...text...}) makes the portion of text only on a certain slide and it would be nice to be able to achive the same effect in ConTeXt with the same simplicity of the usage. Maybe it is possible already, but I'm looking for suggestions how (this feature should be a part of the standard distribution since it is often needed). 2.) filling-up a table This is a more complicated example and probably "playing with TeX" may be the only solution, but I'll ask anyway. I need to make something similar as, say, multiplication table or a table for dynamic programming calculation of minimum editing distance. There is a n*m table, whose fields have to be filled step-by-step (sometimes the last entries in bold or in red) on consecutive slides. Copy-pasting and correcting the table ten or twenty times makes no sense. I would be grateful on any suggestion about how to solve this problem. 3.) graphics manipulation Sometimes not only the text alone, but also the graphics should change a bit. itdemos/internal/calculat/calculat.pdf (without the first page) can explain exactly what I mean. http://www.theorie.physik.uni-wuppertal.de/~rainer/talks/sample3.pdf is also an example, although I believe I would stil prefer using PowerPoint (I never did until now) if I was forced to make something similar in the way they did (using the same tools, tricks and complexity). I think I would be able to solve this anyhow, but with way too much effort and without some dirty trick. Can please someone provide me some minimalistic example of how to do this in metaplay? It would also be nice to include it in metafun manual or at least put it into wiki. 4.) Page numbering Suppose I have now "my perfect presentation" :) and I want to number the pages or achieve some visual effects such as in any of the following: general/manuals/example.pdf (dots on the bottom of the page) pre-funny (dark red spot in the frame) pre-colorful (bottom line) Introduction `a ConTeXt, Denis Roegel, 29th May 02 How do I make the pages belonging together also possess the same page number? (for example pages 2-9 of collect/present/pre-ntsd.pdf could theoretically be assigned the same page number, 10-14 the second, 15-17 the third, ...) In the above mentioned example in Prosper this kind of page numbering is solved exactly the way I like. *** *** *** *** *** Thanks a lot, Mojca Miklavec