* RE: Re: new stuff for brave users
@ 2004-08-04 14:22 ishamid
2004-08-04 22:51 ` Hans Hagen Outside
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From: ishamid @ 2004-08-04 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Patrick,
One suggestion for TeXshow-web:-)
The commands are all listed in alphabetical order, which is great. But one
good help would be an option ordering them by topic. For example, a while back
I needed a rotation command, and the manual does not discuss many of the
graphics capabilities of ConTeXt. I finally found \rotate combing through the
base files (it's not in cont-eni.pdf). It would be very useful to know all
such graphics commands in ConTeXt. The organization of the Reference Manual of
Lamport's book on LaTeX, or even the end-of-chapter command summaries of
cont-eni.pdf, is a good model for this. So if I am looking for a graphics
command I can look purely alphabetically as it is now, as well as topically,
which is sometimes more useful.
A related point; in ConTeXt the bar <|> is an active character, which is not
Plain behavior. A list of these little special characters would be useful as
well, especially for macro writers, etc.
In any case, this list of commands is a great contribution, and a topical
organization would make it greater:=)
All the best
Idris
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 14:22 Re: new stuff for brave users ishamid
@ 2004-08-04 22:51 ` Hans Hagen Outside
2004-08-05 1:39 ` Brooks Moses
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From: Hans Hagen Outside @ 2004-08-04 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
ishamid wrote:
>The commands are all listed in alphabetical order, which is great. But one
>good help would be an option ordering them by topic. For example, a while back
>I needed a rotation command, and the manual does not discuss many of the
>graphics capabilities of ConTeXt. I finally found \rotate combing through the
>
>
so ... not you can write a myway about it -)
those chapters are not yet added to the big manual (some of it is in the
old versions; i have to rework them a bit)
Hans
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 22:51 ` Hans Hagen Outside
@ 2004-08-05 1:39 ` Brooks Moses
2004-08-05 8:58 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Brooks Moses @ 2004-08-05 1:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 12:51:13AM +0200, Hans Hagen Outside wrote:
> so ... not you can write a myway about it -)
I seem to have lost my link to the existing MyWays, if I ever had
one. Where can I find them?
Thanks,
- Brooks
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-05 1:39 ` Brooks Moses
@ 2004-08-05 8:58 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2004-08-05 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
> I seem to have lost my link to the existing MyWays, if I ever had
> one. Where can I find them?
Existing MyWays are nowhere collected. (Planned at
http://contextgarden.net/The_ConTeXt_Way)
"ThisWay"s are at http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
---
http://www.fiee.net/texnique/
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 10:12 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2004-08-04 10:57 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-08-04 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
>>Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I
>>want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in
>>texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's
>>annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
>>
>>
>
>This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax definition is wrong?
>
>The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is
> \about [ref]
>not
> \about {text} [ref]
>
>I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the
>next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.)
>
>
best send such patches to me, or maybe collect them as comment so that they can be fed back to me
Hans
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 10:03 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2004-08-04 10:42 ` Vit Zyka
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2004-08-04 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> Hello Vit,
>
> Well, I have receieved your message, but was too busy on
> context-live. Your message is still in my inbox and I will work on
> texshow-web this week. Your suggestion is not that trivial, since I
> ...
> Patrick
All right, I understand that.
> > \definelayer[name][...,=,...]
> > \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
>
> > Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
> i have to do that to the main file; since layers are relatively new i
> didn't do it yet, but i'll put it on my todo list -)
> Hans
Great!
Vit
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 9:31 ` Patrick Gundlach
2004-08-04 9:55 ` Vit Zyka
@ 2004-08-04 10:13 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2004-08-04 10:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>http://live.contextgarden.net
>
> one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have
> only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think
> that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't
> rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would no
> need for feedback.
>
> Patrick
Here is what I wrote yesterday, but haven't sent yet :)
Did I send this accidentaly ? :) :) :)
It's a great service, it would just make sense to connect the wiki and
code rendering, so that the code written would be automatically
"copy-pasted" in the window (or any other mechanism to enable quick
acces to the documents described in wiki).
Well done again,
Mojca Miklavec
*** *** *** *** ***
1.) WIKI
1.1.) It would make sense to add a link to CenTeXt wiki from
www.pragma-ade.com
1.2.) http://www.mayer.dial.pipex.com/latexrender.zip
is an example of a tool which (as long as I have seen and understood it
correctly) does nothing else but wrapping a (LaTeX) code, executing it
and cropping the relevant part into PNG image. There are already modules
for PHPBB and wiki. I guess it wouldn't take so much additional effort
to enable some excelent feature to both the ConTeXt and texshow wiki:
* rendering image as an example of the effect of the code written there
For example, if someone would write:
[context]
a couple of lines of context code
[/context]
it would be shown as the code as well as a PNG image showing the result
and perhaps an additional link to the PDF document rendered.
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 9:55 ` Vit Zyka
2004-08-04 10:03 ` Patrick Gundlach
2004-08-04 10:06 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2004-08-04 10:12 ` Taco Hoekwater
2004-08-04 10:57 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2004-08-04 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I
> want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in
> texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's
> annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
This also raises another problem: what to do if the syntax definition is wrong?
The very first definition is wrong: \about's syntax is
\about [ref]
not
\about {text} [ref]
I fixed that in the garden, but will that new definition be destroyed at the
next automatic update? (my change also didn't update the display, btw.)
--
groeten,
Taco
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 9:55 ` Vit Zyka
2004-08-04 10:03 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2004-08-04 10:06 ` Hans Hagen
2004-08-04 10:12 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-08-04 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Vit Zyka wrote:
> > i have noticed that the next group of macros is missing in the
> > texshow-web:
>
> > \definelayer[name][...,=,...]
> > \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
>
> > Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
i have to do that to the main file; since layers are relatively new i didn't do it yet, but i'll put it on my todo list -)
Hans
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* Re: Re: new stuff for brave users
2004-08-04 9:31 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2004-08-04 9:55 ` Vit Zyka
2004-08-04 10:03 ` Patrick Gundlach
` (2 more replies)
2004-08-04 10:13 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Vit Zyka @ 2004-08-04 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>http://live.contextgarden.net
>
> one thing to add: I'd appreciate any kind of comments, since I have
> only tested it with safari and old versions of mozilla. If you think
> that there is anything strange, don't hesitate to tell me! And don't
> rely on your impression that others will do so, so there would no
> need for feedback.
>
> Patrick
Hmmm. Contextgarden with texshow are great ideas and tools for making
usage of ConTeXt easier. So I desided to fill some contents occasionally.
Two weeks ago and again two days ago I asked Patrick what to do if I
want to write some macro description but the macro is not present in
texshow. But no response I have received yet. So the above Patrick's
annoucement is a bit funny for me ;-)
OK, I ask here in the list again, see bellow.
Cheers
Vit Zyka
-------------------------------------------------------------
> Hallo Patrick,
> i have noticed that the next group of macros is missing in the
> texshow-web:
> \definelayer[name][...,=,...]
> \setlayer[name][...,=,...]{text}
> Can you add them, please? Or there is another way how to do it?
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