From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/16213 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Outside Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: How to use PostScript font Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:26:06 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <41292B8E.6080108@wxs.nl> References: <672d10671a77.671a77672d10@tampabay.rr.com> <41245FD7.8060509@wxs.nl> <4125AE5D.5050700@wxs.nl> <41261E2E.3000900@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093247690 8871 80.91.224.253 (23 Aug 2004 07:54:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 23 09:54:43 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bz9f9-0003Ce-00 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBB71278E; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31324-02-5; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABD12797; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2880412793 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31324-02-3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailrelay01.solcon.nl (unknown [212.45.32.200]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5914612789 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-net.nl (dsl-212-84-128-085.solcon.nl [212.84.128.85]) by mailrelay01.solcon.nl (8.12.11/SQL-8.12.11-5/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7N7sVeu007955 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:31 +0200 Original-Received: by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id A23F72E749; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.191] (unknown [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-net.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891252EA3D for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:54:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: clamd / ClamAV version 0.73, clamav-milter version 0.73a on mailrelay01.solcon.nl X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:16213 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:16213 Hi Patrick, >Yes, but what is the problem? We are not talking about "other fonts", >just the ones preinstalled by psnfss. We know ervery bit of those >fonts, so no need to reflect the spacing etc. in the filename, since >e.g. phvr8t will always have the same characteristics thougout all >distributions. > > > that's fine for those who use ec fonts, but i happen not to use them (we started using texnansi a long time ago; i'm not even sure if ec was around that time, and i definitely didn't have access to metrics then) >>say that i want to mix polish and german (using qx and ec encoding) in >>one doc, i want similar spacing etc, don't i? >> >> > >Right, but qx isn't supplied by psnfss anyway, is it? So you'd have >to make your own font; but I still can't see the drawback in using >those fonts for 99% of [texts covered by ec encoding]. I can agree on > > well, (other thread), this is why we need an encoding with 'as many characters as possible' which means, no funny characters like copyright and registered and such (which spoils slots) -) >"don't mix fontinst installed fonts with afm2... installed fonts when >you need same em width (and alike)." But for most texts I bet that >this is not an issue. > > probably, so, i have no problems with everyone except me using ec and psnfss fonts; and indeed i don't want to mix systems (most of the documents i process here use commercial fonts and for those i depend on my own font hackery; it simply does not pay off to spent much time on figuring out fontinst for that, apart from the fact that i lost track of font names long ago -) >Absolutely. The choose the adobe metrics from psnfss, but as I am >told the URW metrics have somewhat questionable kerning data. And >using URW metrics with Adobe fonts will break on glyphs that are in >URW but not Adobe. > > right, and that's why i use the urw metrics with urw files (i always embed those files, since i don't want operating systems/acrobat/printers to swap in their own substitutes and clones); when i use for instance palatino from adobe or linotype, I just generate new metric files. >That is really good. Let me see what I can do with respect to >psnfss/texnansi... > > ok; btw, also take a look at sieps afm2pl since it has some other nice features Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------