From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/43779 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: sometxt in mkiv Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:22:12 +0200 Message-ID: <412BE50D-3652-4602-A678-BE1D873B3813@uni-bonn.de> References: <6faad9f00809071242n452c61c2l95e1f1949e244696@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220863364 25589 80.91.229.12 (8 Sep 2008 08:42:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:42:44 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Sep 08 10:43:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KccLS-0006QN-1E for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:43:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDEF1FE9E; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:42:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30617-02-4; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:41:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C241FECA; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:40:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87B31FE69 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32397-01 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:39:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout08.t-online.de (mailout08.t-online.de [194.25.134.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553A01FECB for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout08.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1Kcb4q-0003Qt-07; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:22:24 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (bM4pZwZLrhkRYSR8NrykvbLx+GsdWBWbTFaQ5EBK4B16iRCkvpgJE7TYnk8p7ySQhM@[87.178.94.172]) by fwd30.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1Kcb4e-2BHmoy0; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:22:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00809071242n452c61c2l95e1f1949e244696@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-ID: bM4pZwZLrhkRYSR8NrykvbLx+GsdWBWbTFaQ5EBK4B16iRCkvpgJE7TYnk8p7ySQhM@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 5e24d067-4030-44fa-b59f-508ee0eb2e9d X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:43779 Archived-At: On Sep 7, 2008, at 9:42 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Honestly, I don't think that we need this exact functionality. In mkiv > textext works perfectly well to achieve the same goal, you don't > really need \sometxt or \TeXtext. The only question is: do we care > about backward compatibility? I can also remove the example from MyWay > or write that it's a bit obscure. It really is an obscure application. > > OK, I just neglected the fact that I do use that in the gnuplot module > (which is not mkiv ready for two tiny and obscure reasons that could > be fixed long ago). In case that I won't be drawing the graphs for > thesis in excell, I'll try to fix the module. I don't think that any > other sane person uses \TeXtext. (I don't, and module should be fixed > anyway.) > > Mojca Mojca, Aditya, thanks for your responses. I was aware that you can use textext (that's what I do right now), but was under the impression that sometxt was the way to go (faster and more flexible). Now I'm confused :-) I was asking because I was working on my presentation module. One of the metapost graphics for picture inclusion seems to give problems when run under XeTeX, so I was wondering if I could replace it with the clever sometxt mechanism Mojca mentions in her MyWay. But then I saw that this doesn't work in mkiv... I find XeTeX very hard to support in my module. I don't use it myself, I find fonts deeply baffling (I still got the darned "mktextfm lmtypewriter- blablabla" message a zillion times, and there is no way to stop a XeTeX run; I still had to explicitly disable MKTEXTFM in texmf.cnf in TeXLive 2008), so I'm considering just giving it up and tell people to use mkiv instead. Mojca: I appreciate you write "any other sane person" and not "any sane person" :-) All best Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________